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In the video I heard Dirac multi-sub optimization. At least I thought I heard. I think they have 16 channels that can be configured for anything.They missed the boat with the AVP/R's only .1 in bass management?
In the video I heard Dirac multi-sub optimization. At least I thought I heard. I think they have 16 channels that can be configured for anything.They missed the boat with the AVP/R's only .1 in bass management?
Your correct, I edited my post, but like you say there's still only 16 channels so somethings got to give to make room for multisub connections. Either lose some surround channels or overhead channels (Auro compat?).. Then its no longer a 9.x.6 processor. LOLIn the video I heard Dirac multi-sub optimization. At least I thought I heard. I think they have 16 channels that can be configured for anything.
They have specs by the way online: https://www.jblsynthesis.com/products/electronics/surround-processor-preamplifiers/SDP-55-.html
From min.8 appx, weird that he missed mentioning the Logic 16 music upmixer:
Your correct, I edited my post, but like you say there's still only 16 channels so somethings got to give to make room for multisub connections. Either lose some surround channels or overhead channels (Auro compat?).. Then its no longer a 9.x.6 processor. LOL
Trinnov 16 channels, fully configurableEven though it will never happen (and for good reason) I'd be really happy if someone would release a completely flexible 10 channel prepro. By that I mean that every channel was software mappable via DSP for whatever you wanted. Want to run it as an active crossover for a pair of 3/4/5 way speakers? Done. 9.1 Dolby/DTS? Done. An LCR setup with 5 subs? Done. Bi-amped LCR's with 2 atmos channels and 2 subs? Done.
...And the holy grail - switch between 5 pairs of speakers (corrected to a single listening position)? Done.
I don't care if it's $25K - I'll figure out how to justify it to my wife afterwards. Back on earth, however - that SDR-55 looks like it will be the replacement for one of my 8801A's - even if it's not measurably better (though I'm sure it will be) it ticks all the right boxes IMO.
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Your correct, I edited my post, but like you say there's still only 16 channels so somethings got to give to make room for multisub connections. Either lose some surround channels or overhead channels (Auro compat?).. Then its no longer a 9.x.6 processor. LOL
SDP-55 Surround Sound Processor, SDR-35 16-Channel AVR:
Sadly it is out there as far as delivery: Q1, 2020.
SDR-35 is $7,500 and SDP-55 is $6,000. So not cheap.
For that kind of money I'd get a PC, which will do decode of any multichannel audio and downscale it to stereo, which will then feed separate external DAC, and from DAC to poweramp. And I will get much better SINAD than any of these integrated boxes!
For that kind of money I'd get a PC, which will do decode of any multichannel audio and downscale it to stereo, which will then feed separate external DAC, and from DAC to poweramp. And I will get much better SINAD than any of these integrated boxes!
I don't know of any software only Atmos decoder (with the exception of the Dolby Labs one, not cheap) that can be used with a PC,
also I don't expect that one will be licensed in the future... but who knows about the future?
There is no fair use provision for patents, only copyrights. Seeing how Dolby has patented these technologies, fair use cannot be used as a defense.Fair use laws permit development of such software for personal use and for compatibility reasons. HDFury has even pushed that into a commercial product without paying for a HDMI license.
There is no fair use provision for patents, only copyrights. Seeing how Dolby has patented these technologies, fair use cannot be used as a defense.
As for HD Fury, plenty of companies wanted to go after them and shut them down. So they are not an example of safe haven.
What I mentioned in the case of HD Fury was inside information I have/had as one of the key stakeholder company in that circle. It was not based on some random threat of litigation. Contracts are involved in purchase of certain components and violating the provisions in them can get you in hot water with lawyers from big companies coming after you.As any lawyer would tell you, someone interested in suing someone (for whatever reason) does not establish validity of that claim but only prevailing against it in a court of law would. Attempts to shut them down could just be empty threats to discourage further entrants. The early attempts by Apple against Hackintosh projects were one such example.
What I mentioned in the case of HD Fury was inside information I have/had as one of the key stakeholder company in that circle. It was not based on some random threat of litigation. Contracts are involved in purchase of certain components and violating the provisions in them can get you in hot water with lawyers from big companies coming after you.
Yea, if you know how to acquire all the separate pieces, configure them to work together, and don't mind troubleshooting for hours each time some update breaks part of all of your system. No thanks, I'll just buy a nice piece of AV hardware and enjoy the music.For that kind of money I'd get a PC, which will do decode of any multichannel audio and downscale it to stereo, which will then feed separate external DAC, and from DAC to poweramp. And I will get much better SINAD than any of these integrated boxes!
For that kind of money I'd get a PC, which will do decode of any multichannel audio and downscale it to stereo, which will then feed separate external DAC, and from DAC to poweramp. And I will get much better SINAD than any of these integrated boxes!
You think people would buy these multichannel systems to just listen to stereo?
I don't know of any software only Atmos decoder (with the exception of the Dolby Labs one, not cheap) that can be used with a PC,
also I don't expect that one will be licensed in the future... but who knows about the future?
There is no fair use provision for patents, only copyrights. Seeing how Dolby has patented these technologies, fair use cannot be used as a defense.
As for HD Fury, plenty of companies wanted to go after them and shut them down. So they are not an example of safe haven.
But, for reasons I posted earlier, this is all academic since the demand for such decoders is tiny.
I thought that patents temporarily protect inventors from copycat competition. This prevents me from marketing, say, a Synergy horn but not from making one for my own use. IOW, I believe @audimus is correct here.There is no fair use provision for patents, only copyrights. Seeing how Dolby has patented these technologies, fair use cannot be used as a defense.
I'm probably nitpicking, but I believe patents - like copyrights - were designed to benefit the public, which is why they require disclosure of the invention. To encourage invention & public filing, the inventor wins exclusive commercial rights for some years; but everyone benefits when the patent expires, because the technique has been documented. That said, patents have been getting more & more screwed up for some time...Patents were designed to protect commercial interests when such inventions had to be in public and could be copied.
There is another factor with reverse engineering in the USA, and that's the DMCA. Breaking any kind of encryption is a federal felony, regardless of why you do it. A legit owner absolutely has fair-use rights to back up his Batman DVD bit-for-bit, but cracking the protection to do so is a crime. It's like legislation against burning the flag would raise a free speech fight, so they dodged the issue by requiring all flags to be fireproof.