Dear audioscientists
I'm making this thread mostly to entertain what your ideas are of an ideal (budget) setup upgrade. My current rig consists of NAD c326bee amp, Mission 753 floorstanding speakers and a B&W ASW600 subwoofer. The system sounds pretty good however the current issues is:
1) I think (not sure) that the Mission 753 is kinda harsh in the treble whilst not having so much bass. It's a very precise speaker but it doesn't sound so "warm" or "open". Its excellent for acoustic/folky/classical sounding music though i listen to lots of hip hop and electronic music. In other words: In general i want to upgrade speakers.
2) The subwoofer is hard to integrate properly. In the manual it says that its best kept low-cut at the -6db of the satellites speakers, which is 40 hz, so currently its low cut to 40hz and with its volume kinda low it hardly does any difference in the sound beside an occasional rumble (i don't like it loud enough to vibrate the living room). It doesn't high-pass the satellites properly when using its internal crossover so i'm left with using the sub-line out from the amp to it and then supporting the natural roll off of the Missions.
This i think leaves me with 2 choices:
1) Buy floorstanders with bigger bass capaticies (8" drivers?). Even though the Mission go down to 45hz +- 3db its sound is not to "open" and "bassy". A current choice would probably be the Wharfedale Linton 85th... Or if i save more money the Polk R700.
2) Buy an AVR that has bass management (low pass to sub, high pass to satellites). Just a used budget one. Then i wouldn't even need to upgrade to Floorstanders but could probably do with just bookshelfs (Wharfedale 12.1, Polk R200 or the like).
What do you guys would think the pros and cons are? One the one hand with just the stereo amp and two good floorstanders that maybe go down to 35hz +-6db wouldn't that be good enough for music? Do i really need that 20-35hz even though it would mean that i use a second hand budget AVR? Even with the AVR i still need to find the right volume, phase settings etc. causing inconsistencies which the first option is without? To surpass the Mission 753 how much money would i even need to spend in order not just to sidegrade (they are from 1992)? Or is a subwoofer just that vital as for example It takes the Linton preference score from 6.0 to 7.8? Is a sub and AVR just necessity?
What are your thought? What would you do?
EDIT: Forgot to tell room correction is done in either case and moving around the sub isn't possible due to looks.
Looking forward to hear your answers!
I'm making this thread mostly to entertain what your ideas are of an ideal (budget) setup upgrade. My current rig consists of NAD c326bee amp, Mission 753 floorstanding speakers and a B&W ASW600 subwoofer. The system sounds pretty good however the current issues is:
1) I think (not sure) that the Mission 753 is kinda harsh in the treble whilst not having so much bass. It's a very precise speaker but it doesn't sound so "warm" or "open". Its excellent for acoustic/folky/classical sounding music though i listen to lots of hip hop and electronic music. In other words: In general i want to upgrade speakers.
2) The subwoofer is hard to integrate properly. In the manual it says that its best kept low-cut at the -6db of the satellites speakers, which is 40 hz, so currently its low cut to 40hz and with its volume kinda low it hardly does any difference in the sound beside an occasional rumble (i don't like it loud enough to vibrate the living room). It doesn't high-pass the satellites properly when using its internal crossover so i'm left with using the sub-line out from the amp to it and then supporting the natural roll off of the Missions.
This i think leaves me with 2 choices:
1) Buy floorstanders with bigger bass capaticies (8" drivers?). Even though the Mission go down to 45hz +- 3db its sound is not to "open" and "bassy". A current choice would probably be the Wharfedale Linton 85th... Or if i save more money the Polk R700.
2) Buy an AVR that has bass management (low pass to sub, high pass to satellites). Just a used budget one. Then i wouldn't even need to upgrade to Floorstanders but could probably do with just bookshelfs (Wharfedale 12.1, Polk R200 or the like).
What do you guys would think the pros and cons are? One the one hand with just the stereo amp and two good floorstanders that maybe go down to 35hz +-6db wouldn't that be good enough for music? Do i really need that 20-35hz even though it would mean that i use a second hand budget AVR? Even with the AVR i still need to find the right volume, phase settings etc. causing inconsistencies which the first option is without? To surpass the Mission 753 how much money would i even need to spend in order not just to sidegrade (they are from 1992)? Or is a subwoofer just that vital as for example It takes the Linton preference score from 6.0 to 7.8? Is a sub and AVR just necessity?
What are your thought? What would you do?
EDIT: Forgot to tell room correction is done in either case and moving around the sub isn't possible due to looks.
Looking forward to hear your answers!
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