Pearljam5000
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I won't regret not buying the biggest, baddest flagship of the series they make for a little more $$$?
Well, I did exaggerate. Would really like to see a 1237B to rival the KH420's on-axis.1237A has a small 1.5k bump, 8361A a 2.5k one.. we are not talking about 1238A here. Sure 8351B is smoothest, but how much does that really matter.. just damp the room a bit..
Once again, what are your listening distance, typical volume at listening position and room dimensions/materials?I won't regret not buying the biggest, baddest flagship of the series they make for a little more $$$?
Beaming tweeter and probably worse IMD than Genelec as it crosses at 200 Hz instead of 320 Hz for the 8351B. Need to do room correction by yourself, too.And now to throw a wrench into all of this, there's another monitor company with coaxial tweeter/mid that looks really interesting: Ex Machina out of Brooklyn NY. Their smaller model is about the price of the 8351.
Beaming tweeter and probably worse IMD than Genelec as it crosses at 200 Hz instead of 320 Hz for the 8351B. Need to do room correction by yourself, too.
6 year warranty is nice if the manufacturer doesn't disappear, though.
Source: manual
Didn't see that, thanks. Not too bad then.Note that the frequency extends to 40KHz in the graph - where we can actually hear, the beaming isn't so bad
Maybe, but this still involves a sizeable excursion.Also, the mid is 6" diameter so IMD is likely not that bad either.
I won't regret not buying the biggest, baddest flagship of the series they make for a little more $$$?
What stands are they? Where did you get them?
That's probably required to prevent US citizens to sue Neumann for US$ 1.000.000 when they touch the heat sink and get burned ...That's why I said relatively. That heatsink says HOT in big letters for a reason.
Guess I took the hypothesis a bit far. Let's say that class D is just more suited to active speakers with electronics inside.That's probably required to prevent US citizens to sue Neumann for US$ 1.000.000 when they touch the heat sink and get burned ...
I don't own the KH420 but I own the smaller predecssor of the KH310, the K&H O300D, with a combined RMS power of 260W (130W+60W+70W class A/B power amps). The size of the heat sink on the back is 20 x 13 cm. It gets just warm to the touch even after long sessions at higher SPL. I haven't measured the temperature, but knowing that at about 50 degree Celsius humans start to feel pain I can say the O300D is far away from that. I don't see any reason why this would be different for the KH310 and KH420 (with its bigger heatsink).
So as long as no one can show some evidence that the KH420 dies prematurely due to too high temperature we should refrain from spreading FUD.
Let me throw in a pair of KH310 and a pair of subs (KH750 or similar from Genelec) for the same amount of money. I'm sure as long as you don't need the higher possible SPL of the KH420 this combination may deliver better sound in a room. Midrange and tweeter domes are the same anyway.The dilemma is harder than i thought
1237A or 8361A or 8351B with a sub or KH420
In this comparison, you should consider that the Ones have a better vertical than horizontal dispersion, and that they're made to be easily laid on their side.if i had to choose between the 8361 and kh 420 i would pick the latter as it has textbook perfect horizontal dispersion. but i would pick the 8351b + a subwoofer over either.
IMHO this is too small for the KH420.Room is currently 3X3 meters
Distance, I'm pretty flexible, whatever will sound better
At such a small room imho such a high investment is not really worth it as you won't have great sound quality needing to place the loudspeakers at only 50cm from the front wall and side walls and yourself then also less than a meter from the rear wall for a decent 2 meter stereo triangle.Room is currently 3X3 meters
Distance, I'm pretty flexible, whatever will sound better