Ken1951
Addicted to Fun and Learning
Watching FP1 & 2 this morning. Nice to have it back. Been a fan since 1960 or so, checking out R&T from my local library to follow it.
Yes that's how it's always been, it's an engineering competition first, the disappointing but is that the teams won't share are real info with the fans, for obvious reasons. The drivers do make a difference over a season, within limits.I note that the qualifications show each team’s two cars closely together in results...seems to indicate the car, not the driver, is the dominating factor?
I was pulling for Ver, but the Track Limits were pretty well defined to the drivers and enforced throughout the weekend. MB had a better strategy and Hammy drove his butt off at the end of the race. I was hoping for a non-MB win. Tsunoda drove an excellent race indeed.That was an exciting first race, but I must say Verstappen IMO got ripped off with that out of bounds penalty...I hate it when sporting events are decided by referees.
I also note, wrt my icon in here, that Yuki Tsunoda...the first “21st Century F1 Man” finished 9th!
I'd love to see actual curbs. Sideswipe it and you bend a wheel or break your suspension. Although I guess at the speeds in F1 it might be counter productive to health. Maybe gravel or something similar that would really penalize the car would be better. I'd love to hear Frank Dernie's take on this subject.
You can see that Verstappens car had a slide. I think he could've closed the door on Hamiliton and just put him to decide what happens. VER was first into the corner so it was his corner.
I don't like these soft track limits. Either put gravel or a wall there, so mistakes have consequences.
I'd love a solution that naturally punished going off track, without compromising safety, the more low tech the better, but I've not been able to think of one, gravel traps seem the closest, but they are only applicable for some circuits.I'd love to see actual curbs. Sideswipe it and you bend a wheel or break your suspension. Although I guess at the speeds in F1 it might be counter productive to health. Maybe gravel or something similar that would really penalize the car would be better. I'd love to hear Frank Dernie's take on this subject.
He was only slightly ahead, they both had to give room to the other one, and they both did. Lewis seemed to do his best to make Max carry more speed later into the corner than he wanted, to try and force the mistake, Max nearly made it work, it was good racing, let's hope there is a lot more of it.I think he could've closed the door on Hamiliton and just put him to decide what happens. VER was first into the corner so it was his corner.
Limit the HP on the car for a specified amount of time, like the Formula E boost sections, but the opposite. Definitely not low tech tho...I'd love a solution that naturally punished going off track, without compromising safety, the more low tech the better, but I've not been able to think of one, gravel traps seem the closest, but they are only applicable for some circuits.
I'd be all for that is the detection was automatic and fool proof, if they could sort that, and I cannot believe they couldn't if they really wanted to.Limit the HP on the car for a specified amount of time, like the Formula E boost sections, but the opposite. Definitely not low tech tho...
I blame the FIA for this mess, there rules were open to abuse in the race, but not qualifying, and it looked like most of the field were doing the same as the mercs. I expect a re-wording for future races.The major point of contention here is not the single incident of the takeover, but that for more than half of the race the MB drivers could just ignore the instructions and run wide in the corners without being punished. If you count together all the time saves, it will add to a significant amount, meaning that based on only that, the result might have been quite different.
Yeah. The drivers were ignoring Turn 4 track limits the whole race, and finally Verstappen passes using that exact same line and he has to give the place back. If I'm the RedBull guys, I'm really peeved at that situation. Hamilton gets away with just about everything.The major point of contention here is not the single incident of the takeover, but that for more than half of the race the MB drivers could just ignore the instructions and run wide in the corners without being punished. If you count together all the time saves, it will add to a significant amount, meaning that based on only that, the result might have been quite different.
In any case, finally an exciting race! Surely more to come!
Yeah, they were like, "you can use it if you need to, but not for an advantage, unless you have to, then you can use it, but use your discretion." Most drivers translate that as I'm gonna send it around Turn 4.I blame the FIA for this mess, there rules were open to abuse in the race, but not qualifying, and it looked like most of the field were doing the same as the mercs. I expect a re-wording for future races.
You are conflating two different rules, Max fell foul of the general not allowed to leave the track and gain a lasting advantage rule, it was only coincidental or ironic that it was turn 4.Yeah. The drivers were ignoring Turn 4 track limits the whole race, and finally Verstappen passes using that exact same line and he has to give the place back. If I'm the RedBull guys, I'm really peeved at that situation. Hamilton gets away with just about everything.
Dave.
Finding and exploiting grey areas in the rules is almost the top priority of everyone in the paddock, finding a competitive advantage is probably the term used.Yeah, they were like, "you can use it if you need to, but not for an advantage, unless you have to, then you can use it, but use your discretion." Most drivers translate that as I'm gonna send it around Turn 4.