restorer-john
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I haven't purchased any new vinyl since 1986. Picked up plenty of 2nd hand vinyl, including some incredibly good, or unused ones.
Maybe its an Americanism.Mark Liberman disagrees with the above statement Language Log » Peeve emergence: The case of "vinyls" (upenn.edu)
(Yes, I am 35yr old millennial)
I usually refer to the medium as vinyl. I completely agree, if your sentence structure indicates you can count them then you need a different noun. Since we are just talking about one polymer, PVC, you don't get to use the plural form of it. If you want to say how many of them you have, they need to be records, LPs, or something else you can count. Record is not perfect because it is too broad, and needs some context, LP is too narrow to include singles, 45s and EPs, and vinyl is imperfect because it needs some context and the right sentence structure.Maybe its an Americanism.
Here they are called LPs by most people I know. The only time the word "vinyl" is used maybe would be somebody saying "I'm still into vinyl" but would still refer to LPs as LPs (and 7" records as "singles"). Maybe I am living a sheltered life!
Anyway vinyls offends me
The original microgroove long playing vinyl records were mono; stereo really didn't come into anything resembling widespread use until the early 1950s, and that was on tape.
When I listen to an album I close my eyes so no need for a cover. Recently I bought a box of 10 CDs by Dream Theater for 32€ and 2 days ago listened to the last 2 albums in a row - 2.5 hours of listening pleasure with one short interruption to change the CD. Why would I want to get the same in vinyl for 5 times the price or more?I don't understand why a person would listen to a LP more intently than a CD. For me its about the music, how long can you stare at the cover? And if I can get 3 or 4 Albums on CD for the same price as an LP its a no brainer.
I don't understand why a person would listen to a LP more intently than a CD. For me its about the music,
When listening to music i am browsing the internet for informatie about the recording, band than reading the booklets. The information found is way more indepth/current in many cases than a dated booklet can ever provide. I find it quite relaxing. One of the sources is 1001 albums digital or in book format a treath to read during listening.I have recently purchased several new vinyl releases. I like that with vinyl I will take the time to sit down and listen to whole albums while reading through liner notes and lyrics. I tend to jump around when listening to digital. My recent purchases:
Billie Eilish - Happier Than Ever (ships July 30, 2021):
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Taylor Swift - Fearless (Taylor's Version) (ships August 27, 2021):
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Taylor Swift - Evermore:
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Taylor Swift - Folklore:
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Martin
78s we’re still being pressed in tbe late 60s. My sister has the family 78s including Paint It Black by the Rolling Stones. The market for them were 78rpm jukeboxes, I believe. Judging by the prices collectors pay for Beatles and Stones 78s, it doesn’t seem that they are even rare?Calling them lps is almost as anachronistic as calling them vinyl, who amongst us was around for the 78s or the shellac records that counterpoint those other two names?
Stereo microgroove long playing vinyl records anything else is just faddish.
One of the reasons Cd's could sound a bit harsch around mid 80ties is because lots of record compagnies using the vinyl master than using the original digital master. Story go's that Nichols (sound engineer Steely Dan) did recorded the Nightfly from Donald Fagen fully digital 48khz at the time. In 82 it was one of the first records produced fully digital. So he was buying the Cd in a store. An was horrified by it sound comparred to the lp. Hé Found out that the record compagny used the vinyl master instead of the original 1602 digital master with it full dynamics an transients. Lately i got this original master Nichols referd to an the album is not harsche any more way more balanced an more dynamic. Nichols produced some years ago a surround version of the Nightfly on dvd you can find the 2 channel stereo original 1602 master version of the Nightfly on that dvd. PricelessWhen I started in hi-fi about 50 years ago vinyl and tape, (8-track was still going strong), were the only options -- no digital at all or even dreamt of by typical music lovers.
I got my first CD player circa 1984, (when prices dropped to about Cdn$500). The sound to my ear wasn't really better than vinyl apart from being click & pop-free. CDs were, of course, easier to handle and bit less damage-prone than LPs.
However the last LPs I purchased happened in the mid '90s and only then because there were a few albums not avail on CD. Also, by that time CD players were sounding better; my next CDP I bought in 1991 which sounded much better than the first, mainly at the high frequency end.
Today I still buy CDs but I don't listen to them. That is, I rip them to FLAC and listen from computers. Much Classical music is most readily available on CD.