Now about the deals that are negotiated with volume?
Now about the deals that are negotiated with volume?
In other words, I don't know because I have not made the effort.In other words we don’t know.
Essence makes a DAC with HDMI 2.0b inputs (no eARC).. Amir measured it and it wasn't SOTA, but still has respectable SINAD, especially considering it's one of few standalone DACs with HDMI. I owned own for about a year and thought it sounded good, especially with all the input/output options on such a small device.The reason stereo dacs don't have hdmi audio inputs is because that's what AVRs exist and why tvs offer downmixed audio out.
Indeed he did;Amir measured it and it wasn't SOTA, but still has respectable SINAD, especially considering it's one of few standalone DACs with HDMI. I owned own for about a year and thought it sounded good, especially with all the input/output options on such a small device.
THD + N = 0.00001% at -141 dB S/N Ratio
One additional benefit is automatic (and mandatory) lip sync.Many sources don’t have anything else than HDMI output (AppleTV, Google TV, gaming consoles, UHD Bluray players), so that is obvious gain that you can get audio to DAC. The HDMI CEC allows you auto power on and power off devices and also allow thing like volume control with any remote in your hand. If the DAC goes wild and starts to support Dolby MAT 2.0 (even if it is PCM only) then you can also get the best available stereo sound track that you cannot get by any other means in HDCP chain.
This is almost the same:Essence makes a DAC with HDMI 2.0b inputs (no eARC).. Amir measured it and it wasn't SOTA, but still has respectable SINAD, especially considering it's one of few standalone DACs with HDMI. I owned own for about a year and thought it sounded good, especially with all the input/output options on such a small device.
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Still it doesn't address the requirements. Atmos support is not there. All we need is preouts upto 2vrms with good SINAD. Agree this market has not evolved in last 5 years and stuck with 5.1 DD and DTS.Lots of nice information. I wasnt aware of the Essense HDMI DAC. Good to see that someone had stepped forward to cross the markets.
What HDMI can / could bring to the table (with the positive side effect to connect almost with anything via HDMI)
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Why do you expect multichannel decoding on what is a Digital to Analogue converter? A DAC is not a processor. That job is for AVR/AVP.Still it doesn't address the requirements. Atmos support is not there. All we need is preouts upto 2vrms with good SINAD. Agree this market has not evolved in last 5 years and stuck with 5.1 DD and DTS.
This is absolutely incorrect, they're just limited to 16bit 48KHz.Unencrypted digital output from a protected HDMI signal is a violation of the license, and so it's impossible for a company to offer it. You either have to resort to DIY hardware mods, or rip/decrypt the content.
Someone tested an HDMI 5.1 surround sound decoder here a short while ago, which is dirt cheap. Its SPDIF output was almost fully transparent. Wouldn’t that be suitable to extract HDMI audio?The only extractor I would think of entertaining in 2022 is the VanityPro by Audiopraise, but the fact that it cost as much as a bloody Denon 3800X is a joke.
Even for multichannel? I wouldn’t mind 16 bit 48 kHz at all.This is absolutely incorrect, they're just limited to 16bit 48KHz.
Someone tested an HDMI 5.1 surround sound decoder here a short while ago, which is dirt cheap. Its SPDIF output was almost fully transparent. Wouldn’t that be suitable to extract HDMI audio?
Found it:
Cheapo HDMI Audio Extractor - some measurements
Good afternoon all So I got this cheap HDMI 7.1 audio extractor (aprox. 50$) off ebay or aliexpress (can't quite remember). Usually these kind of products either miss a bunch of specs or stated specs are a blatant lie. So I decided to try some measuring myself. Be warned though - I am no...www.audiosciencereview.com
The only extractor I would think of entertaining in 2022 is the VanityPro by Audiopraise, but the fact that it cost as much as a bloody Denon 3800X is a joke.
I replied as you said you will “entertain” an idea of an extractor. The unit I posted has almost pure SPDIF extraction and is very cheap. For studio it does the job as good as the VanityPro.My TV already has an optical output, for anyone who wants just stereo it’s a really good way to go about things.
AVP: only really expensive choices thereThat job is for AVR/AVP.