Pareto Pragmatic
Active Member
After trying what would be considered a very neutral speaker, never again. Nope.
Also, on measurements. Before using measurements I set up speakers in "the good spot" and eq'd 125hz down 2db at higher volumes. After extensive measurements for a couple of years, I now set speakers in the same spot and eq -2db at 125hz at higher volumes. So what good was all that work if I get to the same place as I got by ear? None good?
So that's my take.
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Ok, I won't buy another neutral speaker, most likely, since I very much like my Sierra LXs. Were I to buy another pair of speakers, I would go bright, since my hearing is going with age, and in a few years that will just be worse.
As for EQ, what I said is true... but.
My room is now much more controlled, I now know exactly at what SPL my floor starts bouncing at 30hz and how that affects other modes, and I know how various toe in angles affect room modes differently. So I can get better performance from my AV speakers which are not in "the spot". My sub for AV is much better integrated. I can also dial in the 1k-3k region with the LXs, giving more elevation or less, through toe angle. I know that moving my speakers 4"/10cm forward or back is pretty much the same as using "loudness" on a receiver (yes, even for treble, odd room and speaker position). And I know a lot more, giving me the options of doing whatever I want in my room to get whatever effect I am looking for, sound wise. And I definitely know the "why" for all those options.
The only downside to all that measurement work is that I am now hearing more in terms of frequency response, and so I am even more picky than I was before. Which was pretty picky, even accepting equipment limitations. And I can still enjoy our (and my wife's beloved) modified Heresies for music and not just AV, so not really all that much of a downside.
I didn't want to troll ASR for more than half a post, but I thought some might enjoy the ride, short as it was.
Also, on measurements. Before using measurements I set up speakers in "the good spot" and eq'd 125hz down 2db at higher volumes. After extensive measurements for a couple of years, I now set speakers in the same spot and eq -2db at 125hz at higher volumes. So what good was all that work if I get to the same place as I got by ear? None good?
So that's my take.
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.
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.
.
Ok, I won't buy another neutral speaker, most likely, since I very much like my Sierra LXs. Were I to buy another pair of speakers, I would go bright, since my hearing is going with age, and in a few years that will just be worse.
As for EQ, what I said is true... but.
My room is now much more controlled, I now know exactly at what SPL my floor starts bouncing at 30hz and how that affects other modes, and I know how various toe in angles affect room modes differently. So I can get better performance from my AV speakers which are not in "the spot". My sub for AV is much better integrated. I can also dial in the 1k-3k region with the LXs, giving more elevation or less, through toe angle. I know that moving my speakers 4"/10cm forward or back is pretty much the same as using "loudness" on a receiver (yes, even for treble, odd room and speaker position). And I know a lot more, giving me the options of doing whatever I want in my room to get whatever effect I am looking for, sound wise. And I definitely know the "why" for all those options.
The only downside to all that measurement work is that I am now hearing more in terms of frequency response, and so I am even more picky than I was before. Which was pretty picky, even accepting equipment limitations. And I can still enjoy our (and my wife's beloved) modified Heresies for music and not just AV, so not really all that much of a downside.
I didn't want to troll ASR for more than half a post, but I thought some might enjoy the ride, short as it was.
