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No we were joking around. We can tell DAC chips apart. Some of us can even tell caps. Those nice and resolving Nichicons are my favourites for casual listening but I prefer Panasonics when mixing.
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Serious Question: How can DAC's have a SOUND SIGNATURE if they measure as transparent? Are that many confused?
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I think that was one of @Blumlein 88 posts (the 7 gen AD/DA one)Somewhere on this site, although not yielding to my search strings, is a listening test with I think up to seven loops of AD/DA conversion.
And here's the result of a lot of ADC/DACs compared via file null comparison.
Df-measurements of DA/AD loops from Gearslutz forum - Articles - SoundExpert
Artifact signatures of DA/AD converters in similarity space.. SoundExpert news and articlessoundexpert.org
This is like a bad sitcom. One guy leaves and the next arrives to illuminate us.
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To quote a certain audio salesperson in NJ when I questioned his expensive Ethernet switch: “EVERYTHING affects the sound”.
If only we could hear everything.
If only we could hear everything.
-300dB, dude.
Sitcom or whac a mole?
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Yeah. You could hear solar flares potentially with that kind of sensitivity.
What, solar flares don't bother you?
Forget solar flares. A single molecule of air striking the eardrum will sound like a nuclear explosion going off nearby. Imagine millions of air molecules at the same time... It's unbearable!
Which is why we have to believe our trolls. They have hearing we can't imagine!
In fairness, only Watts has made the -300db assertion, our latest newcomer has simply made an assertion that would be accepted at face value at any audio dealer and nearly any audio website. This is understandable, unfortunately, and we shouldn’t assign any new beliefs to him.
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Well it was 8 generations. I've posted links to it in this thread alone more than once. Here is a post with both 8th generation threads linked.Somewhere on this site, although not yielding to my search strings, is a listening test with I think up to seven loops of AD/DA conversion.
And here's the result of a lot of ADC/DACs compared via file null comparison.
Df-measurements of DA/AD loops from Gearslutz forum - Articles - SoundExpert
Artifact signatures of DA/AD converters in similarity space.. SoundExpert news and articles
Serious Question: How can DAC's have a SOUND SIGNATURE if they measure as transparent? Are that many confused?
...that is the best take on the subject I have seen so far... ...it is clear to any thinking person that there are asspects involved we have no way to measure... ...it was just stated there are only three asspects measured at the current state of the art...
www.audiosciencereview.com
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Ah and now you give me a chance to share my favorite "German" joke:
- How many Germans does it take to change a light bulb?
- One. We are efficient and we have no humor. [with a German accent]
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A little truth in every joke. A bit of wisdom in each new conspiracy theory. A clock dial may be correct twice a day even if it's otherwise dysfunctional. But even that 'truth' is an artifact of our imagination. So you're back to square one.
Anyone's religion touches somewhere into truths that are otherwise beyond our ken, even if 99 percent of such religious awakening is pure trash. But that truth is slippery and ghostly. We sense it's there, and can't help ourselves. We keep searching.
But, again, I think of Iris Dement's wish to let the mystery be. I'll leave most of the searching into the darker corners to others. And thank them later. I'll live a happier life if at some point if I accept my limits...and just enjoy the music.
Anyone's religion touches somewhere into truths that are otherwise beyond our ken, even if 99 percent of such religious awakening is pure trash. But that truth is slippery and ghostly. We sense it's there, and can't help ourselves. We keep searching.
But, again, I think of Iris Dement's wish to let the mystery be. I'll leave most of the searching into the darker corners to others. And thank them later. I'll live a happier life if at some point if I accept my limits...and just enjoy the music.
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He doesn't need any supporting circuitry. He just wired the chips right to his brain.
Roughly spherical is just like, your opinion, man!
um...how to you know they are 'truths'? Perhaps you should define what constitutes a 'truth'.
I suspect it will be an example of poetry and wishful thinking more than anything else.
Well randomized is the key. If you only use college students, or only use volunteers at an AES conference, or even if you only use people from the US, it is unlikely they are sufficiently well randomized to represent the population of the world.
Actually the problem is more difficult that it may first seem. A famous and well regarded paper on medical research, although not without some criticism too (and medical research is what this would be): https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1182327/
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