Does it do it on the digital input?I will at some point try and record it, it sounds a bit nasty . Unlike soft “hiss” .
Does it do it on the digital input?I will at some point try and record it, it sounds a bit nasty . Unlike soft “hiss” .
It does it with nothing but the power lead connected, Iv not tried the digital connection but can’t see how that would attenuate this noise as it’s origin is the speaker.Does it do it on the digital input?
Thanks for posting your impressions. From what I have read (mostly from the 705i) I was not expecting them to sound small. The perceived brightness is something I was more concerned with, having heard other JBL design with similar style wavegards (JBL 4367s).Ah the sound, they sound like small monitors. Great for desktop use I’d imagen, fairly bright out the box but clean and detailed and They image really well. As for using them as fronts for tv Audio they are a little inadequate even in my modest room ( 4 meters by 6 ish) , they just don’t throw a big enough sound but they are small and do make ‘sense’ with my 40” screen in my small room just more scale would be my preference . You’d need the 708’s for a substantial movie/tv setup certainly as your fronts .
If you want a meaty pair of small but high performing monitors I’d suggest these are worth a listen.
What they are not is terrible cold anti music devices that destroy all feeling, in their own scaled down way they convey what’s on a record in as accurate a fashion as one could wish. If the emotion is on the recording and your used to relating to that its likely these JBL’s won’t deny you the pleasure.
They are setup in my tv room, not plugged them into my main system and I get the feeling they can be driven much harder than the little arcam ir DAC2 that I’m using right now.
Can’t plug them into the main system as the rca-xlr cables were shipped the wrong length
( I know, all the shit falls on my head right)
I’m used to listening to a pair of vivid G3’s so these jbl’s Sound small because they are but they kick out still right up to maximum volume on my arcam ir dac2. There’s no fatigue in them, it’s just a scale thing. Iv found people go a little over the top praising small speakers regarding scale , a small box is a small box.Thanks for posting your impressions. From what I have read (mostly from the 705i) I was not expecting them to sound small. The perceived brightness is something I was more concerned with, having heard other JBL design with similar style wavegards (JBL 4367s).
The perceived brightness is something I was more concerned with, having heard other JBL design with similar style wavegards (JBL 4367s).
The jbl’s Can sound tinny and the drivers can seem like they are not intergrated it’s weird but raising the level of the speaker so the tweeter is parallel to your ear this disappears. Iv found they are best if the tweeter is slightly above your ear level and they are crossed a few inches in front of your nose.
It’s got to be something to do with the driver integration at MLP and how the waveguide effects that as Iv never expirence anything like it. Yes there can be tonal discrepancy’s off axis with speakers but not like what you get with these JBL.This is really interesting. The "passive" version with external DSP/amps was reviewed a bit over a year ago by the Swedish Ljudtekniska sällskapet (audio engineering society) in their magazine. Their review was quite brutal, actually. When I read it, I almost struggled to take it seriously, it appeared silly to me. Seemed to me that either the reviewers were biased in some way, or there could have been something wrong with the DSP settings. But their main concern was exactly a certain "tinniness" (or something like that) in the treble. They also said that this was position dependent, they perceived it in certain positions but not in others.
Given that you have the same impression, maybe there is something to it? Can it be a slight horn/waveguide coloration that people who are not used to horns/waveguides are more sensitive to hearing than people who are used to horns?
What sort of stands are best depends on what you want. Spiked stands actually couple the speaker to the floor and may well make it act as a nice extra bass resonator.View attachment 10162
Hopefully there’s no reflections of my naked form in the tv ( forum joke )
Enjoying streaming 320kb mp3, glad to get the speakers off those frankly terrible isoacoustic stands.they were the wrong hight and the longer poles to correct that leave you with speakers wobbling all over the shop. Bizarre, maybe having unstable stands is good? I thought that was a bad idea, not sure why they are so well regarded.
Heavy stands filled with iron filings , speakers stuck down with frank tac
Two things getting these speakers and using the arcam dac has told me is, streaming is so convenient and having big amps stuck out in your room is unnecessary.
I’d be happy with this sound as my reference if I could scale it up, it’s toally bonkers having all that gear in my hifi room. Bonkers and needlessly expensive, damn!
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Hopefully there’s no reflections of my naked form in the tv ( forum joke )
Enjoying streaming 320kb mp3, glad to get the speakers off those frankly terrible isoacoustic stands.they were the wrong hight and the longer poles to correct that leave you with speakers wobbling all over the shop. Bizarre, maybe having unstable stands is good? I thought that was a bad idea, not sure why they are so well regarded.
Heavy stands filled with iron filings , speakers stuck down with frank tac
Two things getting these speakers and using the arcam dac has told me is, streaming is so convenient and having big amps stuck out in your room is unnecessary.
I’d be happy with this sound as my reference if I could scale it up, it’s toally bonkers having all that gear in my hifi room. Bonkers and needlessly expensive, damn!
I hooked them up in my hifi room on known equipment etc for me they definitely have a bloom like colouring in the mid range..I paid for the Sound on Sound review by Phil Ward. It's a lengthy and thorough review with lots of measurements, well worth the $1.49 via PayPal if one is seriously interested in these speakers.
Here is the "Final Thoughts":
"When I first unpacked the 705P I had high hopes. I have a thing for compact monitors that are well put together and have some engineering tradition and integrity behind them. Overall, I found the 705P slightly disappointing — if JBL could fix its mid‑range coloration things would be completely different, but as it stands, to my ears the 705P imprints too much of its own character on music for it to be an entirely satisfactory mix tool. The 708P, however, is a much more interesting prospect. It still has some quirks of tonal balance and slight coloration, but its no‑nonsense, wide‑bandwidth, low‑distortion and high‑volume personality seems to me exactly what JBL is about. I can imagine numerous dance or electronic music studios, where volume levels can get high and the workload is unrelenting, where the 708P would be in its element. If that’s your kind of scenario, you should add the 708P to the list of interesting monitors."
I hooked them up in my hifi room on known equipment etc for me they definitely have a bloom like colouring in the mid range..
Over all they are ‘ok’ . Builds a bit poor , there’s noise coming from the cabinet on some stuff and the blu tak I stuck them down with pulled the finish off the bottom of the speaker..
I’m wishing I bought the dynaudio LYD7 and the sub that’s matches them perfectly with on board dsp.
Still it’s been enlightening, for me there’s definitely no reason to have big heavy expensive amps nor is there any good reason to have big expensive DAC’s or in my case CDP.
I can’t get rid of the colouration , but the finish on the speaker came off when I took the blu tak off lolSo what you're in fact saying, if I understand you correctly... is that the blu tak isn't enough to fix it?
Yea they have EQ settings, but with no in room measurement I’d be guessing so did not bother plus I’m not sure that “boxy” sound really shows up in a measurement? They are setup as ‘flat’ so I’d think JBL don’t feel there’s any colouration .That is unfortunate to hear. Thomas do you have any way to measure the response in your room? Using something like REW. Just curious if any response anomalies are obvious. And also, don't these have the ability for some contouring built into them? The bands of EQ built in. Wondering if you can fix the bloom using that if you know what the response is.
Yea they have EQ settings, but with no in room measurement I’d be guessing so did not bother plus I’m not sure that “boxy” sound really shows up in a measurement? They are setup as ‘flat’ so I’d think JBL don’t feel there’s any colouration .
I did use the base management to cut them at 60hz as Iv got subs in my room, they do have some presets on the room EQ side but no description of what they are.. no manual came with them. ( probably I can get one on-line but )
In the main I find JBL cheap and nasty tbh I thought their pro gear would be better, especially as these are fairly expensive but no though you can hammer them without issue ( other than noise in the cabinet)
Maybe the 708 is better and these are just a little too ‘ try hard’ for the size, still there’s no way I’d buy anything else made by JBL.
I don’t think they get on with my belles pre amp, it’s very high output seems to create issues with some stuff.
I must get a laptop ( Iv got a measurement mic lol) so I can post some squiggly lines of my own. Save all the subjective bs.