T.H.I.S. is intended to please O.N.E. person alone mostly, right?
I rather spend my cash for getting to the music hall every other day lifelong and meet people--I could, possibly, like
It was HiFi Shop.T.H.I.S. is intended to please O.N.E. person alone mostly, right?
I rather spend my cash for getting to the music hall every other day lifelong and meet people--I could, possibly, like
Thanks, makes sense.Dunlavy SC VI
With all this CH P it might be an unobtanium setup for almost anyone.Mid and High can be good at small speakers too, but the midbass to sub-bass is not easy to get realism.
M9's those range was unexperienced sound. Obviously highend.
The problem with this is that I want to hear the old war horses like Pictures At an Exhibition and orchestras many times play crap new stuff.T.H.I.S. is intended to please O.N.E. person alone mostly, right?
I rather spend my cash for getting to the music hall every other day lifelong and meet people--I could, possibly, like
Psi audio do that with an analog crossover.Just curious, what speaker is that? Vandersteen? Something active with DSP?
Well you would too if you paid 700k for a step response like that and a half-arsed active crossover built around a passive crossover ! And you don't even get an amplifier thrown in with the mix but hey somehow driving a passive crossover with lots of current must be better than doing it at line level and that's why you pay 700k for the privilegeYou really are hating on Magico in general. Is it argumentum ad Lazarum?
I'm guessing you are after an idealised time-coincident step response, which requires digital signal processing (certain active speakers implement this) or physically offset drivers (less precise off-axis). The graph you've presented is a time-coherent step response, which is absolutely not "as bad as this". You can see no crossover or resonance glitches, diffractions or other odd behaviour, so it's actually a very good example of its type. Atkinson's accompanying text:
Note also that audibility of time-coincident versus time-coherent implementations is hardly settled. Reviews here don't demand the former as a key attribute. In the example you've used, we see around a quarter millisecond delay from tweeter to mid (that's the cycle time for the frequency 4 kHz) if I'm reading it correctly. Are you hearing that?
because step/group/phase are not that relevant and the end user can add his own DSP solution anyway?It is interesting why Magico and the other ‘hi-end’ manufacturers don’t adopt perfect step/group/phase/dsp etc why is that do you suppose?
Keith
Actives just don't sell. Customers are a fraction of the total speaker market. Too much conservative I guess.It isn’t just those factors though, they could choose to make a constant directivity/cardioid/dsp/built in EQ along the lines of the Beolab 90, which would bring tangible improvements in sound quality rather than fiddle with box/drivers, diamond/graphene/
Is it their prospective demographic, pressure from retailers who still want to sell cables and amplifier upgrades?
Keith
probably a mix of those reasons. So many speaker companies now that you have to know your market to sell any, especially as these days every speaker no matter how terrible seems to get positive reviews, except from this site.It isn’t just those factors though, they could choose to make a constant directivity/cardioid/dsp/built in EQ along the lines of the Beolab 90, which would bring tangible improvements in sound quality rather than fiddle with box/drivers, diamond/graphene/
Is it their prospective demographic, pressure from retailers who still want to sell cables and amplifier upgrades?
Keith
Based on a chain of op-amps and with not-so-perfect result.Psi audio do that with an analog crossover.
Because it will throw them from high-end pinnacles into the very depth of banal industry and all the sacred shimmer will vanish.don’t adopt perfect step/group/phase/dsp etc why is that do you suppose?
Well I don't think these are going to sell in huge numbers either LOL Just ask ATC whether or not they have a good business model selling actives ??Actives just don't sell. Customers are a fraction of the total speaker market. Too much conservative I guess.
ATC cover both bases though and Magico do a full range, the lower end of which is affordable to most people on professional grade salaries, albeit still in the 'big purchase you have to think about' category.Well I don't think these are going to sell in huge numbers either LOL Just ask ATC whether or not they have a good business model selling actives ??