Many people use cheap switch boxes to easily alternate between their different S/PDIF sources, or coaxical/optical converter boxes worth like $20-30. Performance is still fine. I would not worry about "better" s/pdif signal performance benefit, it's highly unlikely there is one.Are there measured performance benefits between today's latest and greatest mobo SPDIF out vs. something like a D10?
Lol where are you sticking the s/pdif there exactly man do I want to know?Plain SPDIF out doesn't sound particularly good, in fact ot doesn't sound at all without a DAC.
Lol where are you sticking the s/pdif there exactly man do I want to know?
Are there measured performance benefits between today's latest and greatest mobo SPDIF out vs. something like a D10?
btw, I'm not talking about using the D10 as a DAC with SPDIF in, I'm talking about using it (or the mobo SPDIF) to feed another DAC that doesn't have USB in.
Isn't that what we're discussing? Like I said, Amir tested the ENOG2 with the D10 as spdif bridge what better real-world example are you looking for exactly....btw, I'm not talking about using the D10 as a DAC with SPDIF in, I'm talking about using it (or the mobo SPDIF) to feed another DAC that doesn't have USB in.
A/B vs. mobo SPDIF feeding ENOG2.Isn't that what we're discussing? Like I said, Amir tested the ENOG2 with the D10 as spdif bridge what better real-world example are you looking for exactly....
He first tested ENOG with analyser lab-grade SPDIF, then Topping D10 SPDIF. Your mobo will be similar in integrity to the D10 really, you can expect the same performance. Unless you notice drop-outs/instability, you are golden.A/B vs. mobo SPDIF feeding ENOG2.
If that's what the measurements were, then I'm a idiot / I've misunderstood.
I'm not talking about using the D10 as a DAC with SPDIF in, I'm talking about using it (or the mobo SPDIF) to feed another DAC that doesn't have USB in.
My hypothesis is that the D10 SPDIF out might be superior to mobo SPDIF, but that's just a feeling, with no proof to back it up.He first tested ENOG with analyser lab-grade SPDIF, then Topping D10 SPDIF. Your mobo will be similar in integrity to the D10 really, you can expect the same performance. Unless you notice drop-outs/instability, you are golden.
I've used motherbord Optical, new MB only has USB, so used a cheap $20 comverter (signstek), now using a D10 for no good reason other than it was on sale, will do higher rates than the super cheapie, and has better analog outs if I ever choose to use them.
I do in-room measurements - sound in the air - no discernable differences in measurements between the three.
A slowly rotating ceiling fan, someone walking across the room, me turning around in my chair, breathing, not to mention other ambient (quiet) noise levels, all swamp any differences in the conversion, if any exist at all.
Interesting, I guess my feeling was wrong.
Ray - have you compared usb and optical vs Bluetooth in your measurements?
Bluetooth uses on-the-fly lossy compression/decompression because bluetooth bandwidth is too narrow even for audio.
There will be objectively measurable differences. I don't know if you will hear them.
My car uses SBC bluetooth which has been bashed in forums. But when you add road/motor/wind/airfans noises - it will still sound A-OK. Car audio has far lower HiFi requirements
Yet even in those atrocious conditions I can hear the difference between mp3 128k and 320k.
SPDIF and USB-to-SPDIF are purely digital. There should not be any difference since you are sending bits. USB-to-SPDIF might introduce a latency depending on the decoder/coder performance.