New Magico M7 speakers

[Sokel]

From what I can see in the text, it look like that measurement was taken with the mic at 10cm distance from the tweeter diaphragm

Yes,we already talked about it after this post.

 

[Pearljam5000]

What speakers that costs less than the M7 has the same or better performance? (Measurements , SPL capabilities etc)

 

[juliangst]

What speakers that costs less than the M7 has the same or better performance? (Measurements , SPL capabilities etc)

Perlisten S7t with subs to name one that has similar aesthetics

 

[thewas]

What speakers that costs less than the M7 has the same or better performance? (Measurements , SPL capabilities etc)

For example the 8381 which am sure not only measure better but also offer significantly higher performance in real rooms due to the way the can handle the modal issues.

 

[Sokel]

For example the 8381 which am sure not only measure better but also offer significantly higher performance in real rooms due to the way the can handle the modal issues.

Which would end up at the same cost with nice looking cabinets like the Magicos I suspect.

(well ok,not $300k but upwards of the $100k mark)

 

[thewas]

Which would end up at the same cost with nice looking cabinets like the Magicos I suspect.

I doubt its price would more than triple(!) for that and even if, as said, the Genelec have still better performance and also include amplification.

 

[Sokel]

I doubt its price would more than triple(!) for that and even if, as said, the Genelec have still better performance and also include amplification.

(no doubt about the performance,we're in agreement here)

 

[Blockader]

Which would end up at the same cost with nice looking cabinets like the Magicos I suspect.

(well ok,not $300k but upwards of the $100k mark)

You seem to be forgetting that each 8381 speaker contains a 6000W amplifier, resulting in a total of 12000 watts of amplification for a pair. To achieve similar loudness levels with Magico speakers, you would need comparable amplification.
The 8381 speakers can reach significantly higher SPLs, especially when complemented by subwoofers that match with the output of the compression driver, potentially reaching up to 135 dB average for normal music.
Additionally, the 8381 speakers offer superior pattern control, effective room integration, and can easily be incorporated into a 22.2 system if necessary, thanks to the GLM.

Magico essentially offers fancy drivers, which perform comparably to those priced between $80 and $200 each, housed in an aluminum box. This is complemented by substantial marketing hype, promoting technology from the 1970s as a game changer.

Magico essentially offers buyers a way to distinguish themselves from the middle class, maybe allowing them to feel superior to those who may have previously mocked them in the past. Essentially, these products serve as tools for ego gratification, catering to people with fragile egos who struggle to manage their misguided narcissism. Indeed, there's a market for that as well, and Magico seems to be effectively filling that niche. However, comparing Magico's speakers, which rely on overglorified, overhyped, and marketing-inflated technology from the 70s, to state-of-the-art models like the 8381, is a bit... ehh. I don't know what to call it. But you got my point.

 

[Axo1989]

Which would end up at the same cost with nice looking cabinets like the Magicos I suspect.

The aesthetic appeal of Veblen goods like these Magicos isn't just the superficial appearance (which I do prefer to the trypophobic big Genelec box personally) but the unshakeable impression that they are carved out of solid money.

 

[Axo1989]

Magico essentially offers buyers a way to distinguish themselves from the middle class, maybe allowing them to feel superior to those who may have previously mocked them in the past. Essentially, these products serve as tools for ego gratification, catering to people with fragile egos who struggle to manage their misguided narcissism.

That. And also for people who just like well-made objects and lack budget restrictions.

 

[Sokel]

You seem to be forgetting that each 8381 speaker contains a 6000W amplifier, resulting in a total of 12000 watts of amplification for a pair. To achieve similar loudness levels with Magico speakers, you would need comparable amplification.
The 8381 speakers can reach significantly higher SPLs, especially when complemented by subwoofers that match with the output of the compression driver, potentially reaching up to 135 dB average for normal music.
Additionally, the 8381 speakers offer superior pattern control, effective room integration, and can easily be incorporated into a 22.2 system if necessary, thanks to the GLM.

Magico essentially offers fancy drivers, which perform comparably to those priced between $80 and $200 each, housed in an aluminum box. This is complemented by substantial marketing hype, promoting technology from the 1970s as a game changer.

Magico essentially offers buyers a way to distinguish themselves from the middle class, maybe allowing them to feel superior to those who may have previously mocked them in the past. Essentially, these products serve as tools for ego gratification, catering to people with fragile egos who struggle to manage their misguided narcissism. Indeed, there's a market for that as well, and Magico seems to be effectively filling that niche. However, comparing Magico's speakers, which rely on overglorified, overhyped, and marketing-inflated technology from the 70s, to state-of-the-art models like the 8381, is a bit... ehh. I don't know what to call it. But you got my point.

Agreed but the price of the drivers.
As long as I have looked around can't find decent 12" ,4-5" voice coil ones for under 500 euro.
I'm talking about ones starting from good 30's and that you can cross relatively high,at 400-500Hz with really low distortion.
Sub's,I'll pass,good 30's are enough for me,no HT and only classical,I like the baritones sound humane,I never heard such in a system with subs other than studios.

 

[Sokel]

That. And also for people who just like well-made objects and lack budget restrictions.

Another aspect often not visible,is that in most cases the real cost of speakers (or objects at that price) is next to zero depending the buying structure (hint,purchases are always near December and it's not because of Christmas)

Yes,it's not my bad English,they cost these people less than the bookshelves a person buys with ordinary ways.

 

[Sal1950]

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[MattHooper]

If I had that kind of $$$
I'd get the the Vivid Audio Moya M1 over the M7
They just look much cooler
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My buddy is going to be hearing the Vivid Audio Moya M1 in Munich. I'm looking forward to what he reports.

 

[Pearljam5000]

My buddy is going to be hearing the Vivid Audio Moya M1 in Munich. I'm looking forward to what he reports.

Wow very cool
Would be interesting to know what he thought about them after he hears them

 

[Blockader]

People are sleeping on Me Geithain - 800K. 126db max output. Cardioid. Coaxial. 15db side and back cancellation with cardioid.

musikelectronic geithain gmbh - ME 800K

Cabasse - La Sphere should measure good too. 4 way coaxial, and one of the drivers is a 21" woofer.

 

[Sokel]

People are sleeping on Me Geithain - 800K. 126db max output. Cardioid. Coaxial. 15db side and back cancellation with cardioid.

musikelectronic geithain gmbh - ME 800K

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Cabasse - La Sphere should measure good too. 4 way coaxial, and one of the drivers is a 21" woofer.

Every time I listened to big Cabasse in big rooms it was like listening to big nice horns.And I mean big.
They are really something.

 

[Audio Science Pal]

Cabasse - La Sphere should measure good too. 4 way coaxial, and one of the drivers is a 21" woofer.

The Sphere is a clever design.