At its most basic, a small second subwoofer already does the job of smoothing response: http://archimago.blogspot.com/2020/05/musings-measurements-subwoofers-to.html
What do you mean by "you need something"? You can just input everything manually to each Genelec speaker/subwoofer.
Most subs don't have that. My JTR subs kinda do, but it's limited to 1ms intervals.
I was assuming no Genelec subs. If you've got 4x 7370 or something, then yeah. The connectivity and rich feature set is the thing I love about my Genelec subs.
PS: I know you're a very knowledgeable Genelec guy. Any insight on the multi-sub GLM support timeline?
From what I understand, GLM doesn't handle multiple subs properly. It will no doubt EQ multiple subs if you add them to the grid, but I think it treats them as individual units without considering the overall interaction between all of them. I believe @Sancus ask Genelec support about this some time ago and it was confirmed. I understand it's a feature they plan to add at some point, but may not be a priority atm. Not saying you can't get lucky and get a great summed result via GLM, but if I'm starting new, I would definitely opt for a a program that actually supports multi-sub properly(DLBM, AL, MSO), or do it manually via REW.
GLM is currently inferior to MiniDSP+REW for multi-sub management
Is there general agreement on this statement please?
Hi Everyone,
Many thanks for all the responses. I am humbled that so many of you would take the time to help me.
Would it be correct to summarise as follows?
- Two subs are better than one
- Four subs are better than two
- GLM is great for integrating one sub but not that great at integrating a multi- sub installation
Given statement 3 above the question is why invest inGenelec if the result in a multi-sub environment is going to be suboptimal.
This points to buying cheaper subs and spending time integrating them
I'd get a MiniDSP.Hi Everyone,
I think I will start with2 non Genelec subs. So, the question is - how do I calibrate them? Any suggestions please?
Hi Everyone,
I think I will start with2 non Genelec subs. So, the question is - how do I calibrate them? Any suggestions please?
Flexibility comes with the Audyssey phone/tablet app that will let you do whatever you want with any speaker including the subwoofer(s).I kinda forget your setup. What are you using for source/pre-amp. The Denon mentioned above is a good suggestion. While it can handle 2 subs, I'm not actually aware of how Audyssey handles the two sub outs. Does it correct the sum? Or does it do what GLM does(correct individually)? I know that it will definitely time align them for you.
miniDSP is another option if. More manual, but has higher potential.
It's been over a year since your reply, was wondering how you are liking your 7350A subs. Two weeks ago I was able to audition the 8351As with a single 7360A. Obviously Genelec recommend the 7370A but honestly I felt the 7360A was already overpowered for my needs, and then I could also get for the same price a pair of 7350A subs like you did. Where did you place your subs?I use 2 Genelec 7350 subwoofers paired with 2 8351b and GLM manages them. I know Genelec recommends the 7370 with those monitors but in my room the 2 7350 provide all the bass I want and cost was a factor as Genelec subs are pricy. I'm pretty sure GLM will recognize more than 2 subwoofers.
I have Genelecs and they really do push the one sub concept. This is right or wrong depending on your crossover frequency.Hi Forum
Where did the notion that two subwoofers are necessary come from. Every sub I have looked at from the affordable Yamahas to the pricey Genelecs have two analogue XLR inputs (L+R) and two XLR outputs for the studio monitors (L+R).
In fact Genelec who call themselves ‘the world leader in studio monitors ‘seller bundle which they call a stereo bundle comprising
2X8320 SAM monitors
1 X 7350 subwoofer
Is there any evidence that two subs are required or is this just another case of audiophile folklore?
Appreciate any feedback
Kind regards
My room had a couple steep nulls using one 15" sub no matter where we placed it. Because the nulls were at 36 and 68 Hz, we did not need a massive second subwoofer. Adding a small second sub, an SVS SB-1000 Pro with their Soundpath wireless adapter allowed us freedom to place the sub in a location to eliminate the room nulls.
Sadly this really matters. I was about to get a pair of 7350s. Instead I went with one 7360. It was more than enough for my old listening space.It's been over a year since your reply, was wondering how you are liking your 7350A subs. Two weeks ago I was able to audition the 8351As with a single 7360A. Obviously Genelec recommend the 7370A but honestly I felt the 7360A was already overpowered for my needs, and then I could also get for the same price a pair of 7350A subs like you did. Where did you place your subs?
Doesnt this setup create a timing issue since the SVS is wireless and the inherent delay it causes?My room had a couple steep nulls using one 15" sub no matter where we placed it. Because the nulls were at 36 and 68 Hz, we did not need a massive second subwoofer. Adding a small second sub, an SVS SB-1000 Pro with their Soundpath wireless adapter allowed us freedom to place the sub in a location to eliminate the room nulls.
Audyssey or Dirac automatically compensates for the extra wireless delay as long as the difference doesn’t exceed the AVR’s max speaker delay/distance parameter value. So to Audyssey it just appears that the subwoofer is further away than the physical distance.Doesnt this setup create a timing issue since the SVS is wireless and the inherent delay it causes?
If so, how did you correct this? REW?