The decline and fall of Reflex.

[Prana Ferox]

I can't figure out what half of you guys are even arguing about.

However, almost all lenses that came onto the market before 2012 cannot transfer the current resolutions. And the two major camera manufacturers in particular are still lagging behind.

I recently did a walk with a 2008-vintage 24-70mm f/2.8 on my 61MP A7RIVa and was pleasantly surprised to find it pin sharp down to 1:1. I've been very pleased by what resolution I can get out of even older Minolta full-frame lenses on this body.

The 61MP Sony chip has the same pixel pitch (~3.8µm) as a 16MP micro 4/3's sensor. The 20MP m43 sensors are even more demanding, with 3.3µm pitch. I've got plenty of (many fairly cheap) Olympus / Panasonic lenses that will easily resolve to 1:1.

I think what you guys are finding is that a lot of these older kit / travel zooms weren't very good to begin with.

 

[Newman]

I recently did a walk with a 2008-vintage 24-70mm f/2.8 on my 61MP A7RIVa and was pleasantly surprised to find it pin sharp down to 1:1.

Try the corners at ƒ/2.8

 

[Ron Texas]

Nikon still is selling DSLR's, mainly full frame. F mount lenses are being discontinued slowly. One significant development over the last year of two is a collapse in prices for used F-Mount lenses. Screwdriver AF lenses are pretty much worthless as they don't autofocus on a Z mount with an adaptor. Declines have been most pronounced for zooms. Maybe the video guys still like their MF lenses. A rumor about the D850 being discontinued due to EU uniform charger rules turned out to be false.

IMO, the new Z8 provides the level of performance that D850 shooters are looking for. They are on sale for $3500 right now. I could buy one, but I just can't get excited about it. I will probably die before my D850 wears out.

Used DSLR bodies and F-Mount lenses are a bargain for budget constrained photographers who want high quality imaging.