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The facemask thread
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The very 1st thing it says on the top of the page you referenced is:
Not enough studies exist on whether homemade cloth masks trap viruses to know for sure
The 2nd thing it says is:
Health officials in the United States are recommending that people wear homemade masks when going out in public, but few studies exist that evaluate the effectiveness of fabric at curbing virus transmission.
In fact NO STUDIES EXIST...so we can presume that because everyone in America is wearing them, but the virus is still spreading out of control there, that they obviously don't work!
You do realise that you's were told to make those things purely because the US goverment wanted to keep their limited stockpile of medical facemasks for the frontline workers don't you?
The Australian Government had a completely different (& honest) approach. They simply said that they only had enough medical facemasks for the frontline workers. They certainly didn't tell us to make a mask that has no scientific base or to inject ourselves with bleach or all the other stupid things you's are being told to do over there. What I'm saying is just how it is, but I invite you to hit me with (more) of the science.
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@Maxicut, you can check this article and others from the website for information on materials for making homemade masks: https://smartairfilters.com/en/blog/best-diy-coronavirus-homemade-mask-material-covid/.
They do cite some published work (see this article for example) but also do many of their own experiments and publish their methods and data.
Suffice to say I think wearing a homemade mask with a reasonable material should at worst have no effect either way and at best have a positive effect on your protection when in public. As long as you don't touch the outside of the mask or your face while wearing it, remove it carefully, and wash it or let it disinfect appropriately. I see no reason to believe that there's anything wrong with suggesting mask-wearing. Also, looks like countries where mask-wearing is common (both cloth and surgical) are resulting in less spread. That could be due to correlated reasons (countries where people voluntarily wear masks might have populations that are more cautious about virus spread in general) but it points to masks at least not being harmful for this use.
Not trying to say that the US is doing a good job at handling the Covid-19 response... quite the opposite...
They do cite some published work (see this article for example) but also do many of their own experiments and publish their methods and data.
Suffice to say I think wearing a homemade mask with a reasonable material should at worst have no effect either way and at best have a positive effect on your protection when in public. As long as you don't touch the outside of the mask or your face while wearing it, remove it carefully, and wash it or let it disinfect appropriately. I see no reason to believe that there's anything wrong with suggesting mask-wearing. Also, looks like countries where mask-wearing is common (both cloth and surgical) are resulting in less spread. That could be due to correlated reasons (countries where people voluntarily wear masks might have populations that are more cautious about virus spread in general) but it points to masks at least not being harmful for this use.
Not trying to say that the US is doing a good job at handling the Covid-19 response... quite the opposite...
Yeah you have nothing to lose by wearing a homemade mask, but the problem is it gives people confidence to socialise, while these masks are giving you (& everybody else around you) limited to no protection. You'll find that most/all of the published work doesn't come from a science journal. This has only be going on for a few months, so there hasn't been enough time to do proper studies ect ect
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where?
True here, though the closings during the "lockdown" were perfunctory at best and mostly limited to government functions. Lots of people and traffic everywhere else.
True here, too. I will continue wearing masks (surgical and N95) everywhere I go.
I was sitting outside the local 7/11 yesterday while my wife was inside wearing her mask. No-one in the store including employees were wearing masks. I did watch one older woman pull up to the self-service gas pump wearing a mask, kept it on the entire time she used the pump, and used hand sanitizer before she got back into her car.
I wish our governor would make wearing masks mandatory...
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decided to remove my rant lest it upset anyone.
As you were folks
As you were folks
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I have a small number of Chinese produced N95 masks that are ok,but difficult to breath through. (from OttoFrei.com ~$7 each)
I also have a cloth mask that I carry as my back up. (daughter-in-law made this)
A handful of blue surgical masks which are the easiest to breath through, good for moderate exercise. (from a friend via a hair stylist)
Given that I'm reusing these masks over and over, I think that these are somewhat effective in protecting others, but
are primarily social signaling: I am respecting your health, please respect mine.
I also have a cloth mask that I carry as my back up. (daughter-in-law made this)
A handful of blue surgical masks which are the easiest to breath through, good for moderate exercise. (from a friend via a hair stylist)
Given that I'm reusing these masks over and over, I think that these are somewhat effective in protecting others, but
are primarily social signaling: I am respecting your health, please respect mine.
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If you're on mobile the location etc doesn't show automatically. You'll have to click on the profile picture to see it.
The only problem is the adhesive wings pulling some of my beard hairs.
I'm not on a mobile, I'm on my desktop
Make your browser window larger.
even in full screen I don't see it.
This is what I'm getting:
In any event @SIY I apologise if my attempted sarcastic retort fell short of the mark. I didn't mean any harm - I was truly befuddled as to why people seemed to assume everyone could tell where they were from.
Sorry 'bout that
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