Warning, Caution, Theft in Process

[iridium]

I wanted to warn the members:
Tesla information was brought up in the thread:
"BMW Will Bring Self Driving Car in 2021"
Goldman Sachs upgraded one of the biggest momentum/growth stocks, Tesla, to a buy with a $250 price target.
What this means is Goldman Sachs has a $100 Million to a $Billion client that wants to dump their Tesla shares on suckers. When the suckers buy, Goldman Sachs dumps the client's position.

iridium.

 

[RayDunzl]

Tesla Motors Inc

NASDAQ: TSLA - May 18, 2:52 PM EDT
211.25USD

Well, hop on and pretend you are one of Goldman's Big Clients and sell when they do.

It's called "Trading".

 

[iridium]

So many hours later:
moments ago the very same Goldman Sachs (and Morgan Stanley) announced they are lead underwriters on a $2 billion stock offering for Tesla, one in which none other than Elon Musk was also selling over half a billion dollars in TSLA stock.

iridium.

 

[NorthSky]

Is this ethical?

 

[Phelonious Ponk]

No, it's not even legal. At best, it's insider trading, at worst, fraud. But they'll get away with it.

Tim

 

[NorthSky]

That's what I meant; no one cares about ethical or legal or not. This is the capitalism system without laws.
If you play your game with the cards right, you'll not only get away with financial murder, but you'll also put a lot of honest hard workers into misery.
The very people who invest in ... they are getting robbed of their investments by the very rotten system we help create and allow to continue.

It is so painful this system that people are laughing all their guts out on top of their castles above the clouds.
/// While the rest of the world is fighting each other instead of fighting the thieves. ...And crying deep inside when they realized too late the unfairness and greed of some of the worst financial criminals. But crime pays off; that's the message we love to abide by more than life itself.

Or am I missing that message?

 

[iridium]

It is not legal, it is not ethical.
Do not forget that Goldman Sachs OWNS Hilary Clinton and much of Washington.
Bernie Sanders will NOT take donations from Goldman Sachs.
The above is NOT a political statement; it is a statement of fact.

iridium.

 

[Thomas savage]

It is not legal, it is not ethical.
Do not forget that Goldman Sachs OWNS Hilary Clinton and much of Washington.
Bernie Sanders will NOT take donations from Goldman Sachs.
The above is NOT a political statement; it is a statement of fact.

iridium.

It will however be perceived as such so..

 

[RayDunzl]

An interesting day for TSLA, should lead to an interesting day tomorrow, if you are interested.

 

[iridium]

It will however be perceived as such so..

NOT so much in the United States.
They are both Democrats.

iridium.

 

[Purité Audio]

Can someone translate , the owner wants to sell some shares, GS are the broker...?
Keith

 

[Thomas savage]

NOT so much in the United States.
They are both Democrats.

iridium.

Oh, politics cease when both candidates are from the same party... Ok

I take it your a socialist democratic, or should I say SOCIALIST democrat.

I don't mind talking about these issues but there is always a implied politic or passive politic running under the surface.

The issue, and only issue for me is once we start defining each other this way we will lose something in our other audio related debates. Some people find it hard to separate the politics from the man so to speak. While not a issue for many at some point it will cause us problems.

So being politically neutral is desirable.

However I wish this was not the case as it can be most enlightening to hear opinions about your domestic politic from further afield. Something forums like these could facilitate very effectively.

 

[Thomas savage]

Can someone translate , the owner wants to sell some shares, GS are the broker...?
Keith

Yes Keith, big owner wants to dump stock but doing so wil deflate price so the games commence. Whip up the demand with less well informed folk and dump stock with caution.

This way you retain your price for longer, however at some point the market will realise and the price will fall, by this time your long gone but the poor misinformed guy is stuck with falling stock.

That's my take anyway, might be wrong.if so someone else can inform us both

It's just normal human behaviour tbh.

 

[iridium]

Oh, politics cease when both candidates are from the same party... Ok

I take it your a socialist democratic, or should I say SOCIALIST democrat.

I don't mind talking about these issues but there is always a implied politic or passive politic running under the surface.

The issue, and only issue for me is once we start defining each other this way we will lose something in our other audio related debates. Some people find it hard to separate the politics from the man so to speak. While not a issue for many at some point it will cause us problems.

So being politically neutral is desirable.

However I wish this was not the case as it can be most enlightening to hear opinions about your domestic politic from further afield. Something forums like these could facilitate very effectively.

I am NOT a Democrat.
I am NOT a Republican.
There truly is not much difference, and most are criminals.
I am an Independent.
I vote for the person who I feel will cause the least damage and hopefully correct some of the BS.

The only way this mess will have a higher correction is if I am made Benevolent Dictator; do NOT even pay me. I just need to be protected from assassination.
And NO massive 747 jets for me at $$$millions per hour if you account for all related costs. I will just use a very small military jet for the few small trips; NO vacations.

iridium.

 

[Thomas savage]

I am NOT a Democrat.
I am NOT a Republican.
There truly is not much difference, and most are criminals.
I am an Independent.
I vote for the person who I feel will cause the least damage and hopefully correct some of the BS.

The only way this mess will have a higher correction is if I am made Benevolent Dictator; do NOT even pay me. I just need to be protected from assassination.
And NO massive 747 jets for me at $$$millions per hour if you account for all related costs. I will just use a very small military jet for the few small trips; NO vacations.

iridium.

That's what they all stay, best intentions and all that those with well established self intrests will no doubt assassinate you but I will do my best to protect you.

It you start feeling 'watched' you can hide out in my garage from there we can coordinate the socialist revolution.

 

[iridium]

That's what they all stay, best intentions and all that those with well established self intrests will no doubt assassinate you but I will do my best to protect you.

It you start feeling 'watched' you can hide out in my garage from there we can coordinate the socialist revolution.

This would be best turned into a movie.

iridium.

 

[Thomas savage]

This would be best turned into a movie.

iridium.

Amusing

 

[iridium]

Amusing

And if the horses could truly understand direction & speak English for the leading roles, we would have a super-smash hit.

By the way, as BD [Benevolent Dictator], I would NOT be telling the British Isles what they should or should not do.

Respectfully,
iridium.

 

[Thomas savage]

And if the horses could truly understand direction & speak English for the leading roles, we would have a super-smash hit.

By the way, as BD [Benevolent Dictator], I would NOT be telling the British Isles what they should or should not do.

Respectfully,
iridium.

That's easy, we make it a animated movie! We will put the profits towards your 'campaign' .

Now to raise the capital for our movie.. What was that you were on about? Tesla shares??

Full circle comedy skills.

 

[RayDunzl]

Tesla Motors Inc

NASDAQ: TSLA - May 18, 2:52 PM EDT
211.25USD

Tesla Motors Inc
NASDAQ: TSLA - May 20, 7:59 PM EDT
220.28USD

The buyers seem to be undeterred, so far.