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Mytek Brooklyn Bridge II Streamer Review
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BrooklynNick
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The response from Mytek is pretty incredible. Full of anger and misinformation. He does not address the filter issue at all. Apparently he tunes his DACs for "foot tapping." Amir, did you neglect to engage tap dance mode on the Audio Precision?
pseudoid
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pseudoid
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Have you considered writing a book about the whole audio-industry, the goods, the bads, the funnies and the sads.You must be racking-up a huge list of your haters in the industry, @amirm.
Your perspective of the state-of-the-industry would get much attention from all sides of the audio 'spectrum'.
I'll shut-up now.
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What I don’t understand is since Brooklyn has an Audio Precision analyzer why does his product measure so poorly ?
Roon forum is about to implode After Amir’s posts. Michal is right now responding …..
lordhumungous
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Lmao
Unfortunately, a mod there got nervous and asked them to tone it down. Amir was not saying anything out of line of course, but the Mytek guy was throwing out a bunch of subjective BS and "sounded" angry.
If I read this correctly, they have provided a mode to deliberately inject distortion into the signal to make it “toe tapping”. But the author wants to blame Amir for measuring that? I’m bewildered.It would be nice to see validation of
"it looks like the HAT tm function which increases DAC 2nd and 4th harmonic content (2nd by about 12 dB) is on. (HAT makes DAC sound warmer by increasing even harmonics in the DAC current source output stage- the effect is same resolution and sound stage but groovier sound). This setting alone would have lowered SINAD the measurement by at least several dBs".
(Not that it would explain the power supply noise, unless they also provide that as a feature).
If you introduce distortion to get the “sound” you want, just own it and move on. Make it sound like tubes, I don’t care. I just won’t buy it because that’s not what I want in a $5000 digital device. Or a $200 one.
Clearly the dude doesn’t understand the difference between a musical instrument and a reproduction device. This is really classic
. Never mind those blind tests showing people cannot distinguish a Stradivarius from a decently made cheaper model 
To me Amir’s questions with multiple question marks read a bit aggressive as well. Amir’s responses were well argued and didn’t need the “???”
Only in 2024 are three question marks deemed aggressive. Compared to the number of ad homonyms at @amirm and the ASR community from Michal, I'd say these three question marks are a very mild response.
I think multiple question marks were justified based on the amount of BS that guy from Mytek was shoveling.
KSTR
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The specimen measured by Amir is clearly dominated by PSU noise so that even a distortionless DAC would not improve in SINAD by more than 1dB. Other specimen might have much different PSU noise levels, though.It would be nice to see validation of
"it looks like the HAT tm function which increases DAC 2nd and 4th harmonic content (2nd by about 12 dB) is on. (HAT makes DAC sound warmer by increasing even harmonics in the DAC current source output stage- the effect is same resolution and sound stage but groovier sound). This setting alone would have lowered SINAD the measurement by at least several dBs".
(Not that it would explain the power supply noise, unless they also provide that as a feature
Can this be turned off and the filter also set to something useful ? Then it the product could be remeasured I think .It would be nice to see validation of
"it looks like the HAT tm function which increases DAC 2nd and 4th harmonic content (2nd by about 12 dB) is on. (HAT makes DAC sound warmer by increasing even harmonics in the DAC current source output stage- the effect is same resolution and sound stage but groovier sound). This setting alone would have lowered SINAD the measurement by at least several dBs".
(Not that it would explain the power supply noise, unless they also provide that as a feature
Such functions as HAT should really be investigated before measuring , just saying ?
However its an oddball function in that it barely skirts auditability ? if its actually on ? that's also worth some investigation is it on or off in this measurement ???
If one really wants this effect it should be even more pronounced or have user settings .
The filter settings that do nothing are an obvious bug that should never have left the factory ( so they deserve a walk of shame for that ), if there are selectable filter they should work properly if not, a proper filter should be default , not the oddball choice .
KSTR
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In the ESS-based DACs by RME the user has full access to the distortion trim registers and can dial in large enough amounts that are actually audible ;-)
The only audio equipment that should have intentional distortion is guitar amps.
It's rather disturbing that Mytek tries to re-market this as their own Harmonic Audio Tuning ™. The trademark thing seems very important, too, just look at the post over at Roon Labs
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KSTR
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No. The end user is the final arbiter. If it sounds better it "is" better.
KSTR
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Marketing is definitely very important for Mytek, actually it seems to dominate all decisions.It's rather disturbing that Mytek tries to re-market this as their own Harmonic Audio Tuning ™. The trademark thing seems very important, too, just look at the post over at Roon Labs
There is no love going into their engineering, so to say.
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