Music for Testing Treble (High Frequency) Sound

[dualazmak]

The closest to the acoustic signature of the Koopman Trio Sonatas are some of those in Marie-Claire Alain's Johann Sebastian Bach: Complete Works for Organ on the Erato label. The analogue recordings were made between 1978 and 1980 on instruments in Switzerland, Denmark, and France. The ones most closely resembling the instrument used by Koopman were played on the Schwenkedel organ, Collégiale de Saint-Donat, Drôme, France.

Is it this one? Yes, I have the CD!!

 

[Aynsley]

Is it this one? Yes, I have the CD!!
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I have the 15-CD set of the Complete Organ Works but I'm fairly sure this collection of Trio Sonatas is taken from the same recordings. Next to Helmut Walcha, I find Marie-Claire Alain's interpretations of Bach's organ music to be the most satisfying. There's a remarkable consistency in her performances. With the interpretations of other talented musicians, I find myself distracted by sudden and (to me) unexpected pauses, or inflections, or over-enthusiastic use of ornamentation. I confess to being a Bach Fundamentalist.

 

[Leporello]

Thank you for that surprising insight into the digital processing of Grumiaux' 1961 recording of Bach's works for solo violin.

I had no idea such shifting of violin harmonics was possible. It does, however, provide a convincing explanation for the poor quality of the 'remastered' CDs.

I wonder how that kind of processing would even be possible. I also wonder what is meant by 16 kHz recording. In any case the remastered Grumiaux cds sound just fine.

 

[pavuol]

Emika - Letting Go [Prague Metropolitan Orchestra · Paul Batson · Michaela Srumova]

 

[dualazmak]

Emika - Letting Go [Prague Metropolitan Orchestra · Paul Batson · Michaela Srumova]

Hello @pavuol and dear ASR friends,

I thank you for sharing the link to a wonderful YouTube clip which is really suitable for testing/checking high-frequency sound reproduction of our audio system!

First of all, I very much carefully listened to and enjoyed the YouTube clip using my DSP-based multichannel multi-SP-driver multi-amplifier stereo audio system which has still-excellent tweeters YAMAHA JA-0513 and super-tweeters FOSTEX T925A (ref. here for the latest system setup).

Then, after conversion of the YouTube clip into 24 bit 48 kHz AIFF audio format by JRiver MC32, I analyzed the audio track by ADOBE Audition 3.0.1 and XiVero MusicSccope 2.1.0.

Let me start by sharing the ADOBE Audition 3.0.1 color 3D (time/gain/Fq) spectrum of the whole 9 min 7 sec track in vertical scale of 20 Hz - 21 kHz logarithmic, Spectral Controls of Range: 200 dB, Saturation 100, Gamma: 2.80, Resolution: 16384 Bands.

Next, the enlarged view of the vertical Fq Zone of 10 kHz - 21 kHz, with Spectral Control Range 260 dB;

When I analyzed the whole track, the vertical Fq Zone of 10 kHz - 21 kHz, by Spectral Control of of Range: 400 dB, Saturation 40, Gamma: 4, Resolution: 16384 Bands, we can see this 3D color spectrum:

Next, when I analyzed the beginning 90 sec portion, the vertical Fq Zone of 10 kHz - 22 kHz by Spectral Control of of Range: 400 dB, Saturation 40, Gamma: 4, Resolution: 16384 Bands, we can see this 3D color spectrum:

Whole of the beginning 90 sec portion was selected, and its Fq SPL spectrum was analyzed by FFT Size 65536 of Blackmann-Harris window to give this precise Fq spectrum;

The amzing high-frequency transient sound distribution also can be seen in these analysis charts/diagrams given by MusicScope 2.1.0;

Yes, all of my subjective listening sensation and the above objective analysis data clearly tell that this YouTube clip should be one of the really nice excellent sampler/reference music tracks for checking/testing high-frequency transient sound reproduction of our audio systems.

(In my audio setup, this excellent track is also very much suitable for checking the proper ballistic behavior in high-Fq zones of my IEC 160268 compatible 12-VU-Meter Array, together with another specific track of SONY Super Audio Check CD, ref. the top post #1 on this thread and the post here on my project thread.)

 

[dualazmak]

Hello dear ASR friends,

For your possible interest and reference...

I just posted on my project thread! You would please visit my post for the details...
A new series of audio experiments on reflective wide-3D dispersion of super-tweeter sound using random-surface hard-heavy material: Part-1_Background, experimental settings, initial preliminary listening tests #912 on my thread;

Your visit and participation will be much welcome.

Let me copy-past here only two photos from there.

 

[dualazmak]

I hope and believe to be allowed duplicating the content of my post made here just before again on this thread relating to "treble/high-Fq" sound...

This afternoon, I intensively watched/listened to this YouTube video as a part of my new series of audio experiments (especially Case-2 setting shared in my posts here #912 and #921). I have been almost completely forgetting, however, the objectives of my audio experiment during soon after the young violinist started playing until the end of the video...

 

[pavuol]

Something for a genre variety may I? Nice trebles, stereo mix, female vocals.. all boxes ticked
..and I like "Moshi Moshi Records" name, it sounds almost japanese doesn't it?

Au Revoir Simone - The Lucky One

 

[dualazmak]

Of course you are quite welcome!
Sorry but,,, at least here in Japan, I cannot open/play the YouTube clip you cited...

On the other hand, I can open and hear this;

 

[pavuol]

Sorry but,,, at least here in Japan, I cannot open/play the YouTube clip you cited...

oh damned region locks maybe this one, some unofficial clip
[that's why I always write songs in text as well, so anyone interested can look for them in their usual streaming service etc..]

 

[dualazmak]

oh damned region locks maybe this one, some unofficial clip
[that's why I always write songs in text as well, so anyone interested can look for them in their usual streaming service etc..]

Yes, this one works fine! Agree with you, nice music and sound, enjoyable...

 

[pavuol]

I already mentioned in other thread my two older treble playlists / ref #2

However some short time ago, I realised I need another further specialised playlist, which I named "microtrebles" . Many times you can hear some very subtle treble / HF sound effects that are not prominent in the mix but rather a bit "hidden" behind other components of the particular track. Or they are clearly pronounced/separated only in some portion of the track and in the most part of duration they become "laid back" substantially. Depending on the specific song and the hearing abilities of the listener, one might even have to crank up the volume a bit higher to be able to hear them.
Not many tracks there at the moment, so if you are in the mood and are able to access Spotify take a listen [no true classical music there though, pardon]

 

[dualazmak]

I already mentioned in other thread my two older treble playlists / ref #2

However some short time ago, I realised I need another further specialised playlist, which I named "microtrebles" . Many times you can hear some very subtle treble / HF sound effects that are not prominent in the mix but rather a bit "hidden" behind other components of the particular track. Or they are clearly pronounced/separated only in some portion of the track and in the most part of duration they become "laid back" substantially. Depending on the specific song and the hearing abilities of the listener, one might even have to crank up the volume a bit higher to be able to hear them.
Not many tracks there at the moment, so if you are in the mood and are able to access Spotify take a listen [no true classical music there though, pardon]

I agree.
My posts #2 and #31 on this thread would fit well in your "microtrebles" category, I assume.

I also wrote here for track-11 "Dance of the Knights" Prokofiev: "Romeo and Juliet", Charles Dutoit and Montreal Symphony Orchestra (POCL-1082 430 279-2 London - Polydor) that;
"I assume I have no need to describe much about this wonderful performance and recording; let me just touch on one point. In the rather quiet intermediate portion, you hear the sound of celesta comes-in at 2:56 to 3:12; how "nicely" your audio system represent it while you would sit at your listening position in your room acoustics?"