BACCH4 Mac ORC recommended recordinings?

[jimbill]

Really enjoying the ORC update. Many rock and jazz recordings I have benefit from the program.

What classical recordings show the benefits of the filters?

 

[jimbill]

Nothing?

 

[Justdafactsmaam]

Nothing?

Plenty! Any of the Reference Recordings

 

[jimbill]

Plenty! Any of the Reference Recordings

Those are good, but I was looking for something that gets closer to 3 and 9 o'clock like I get from non-classical. Maybe it's just the miking.

 

[Gwreck]

This is a lot of fun if your XTC is solid. Not lossless but good enough.

 

[jimbill]

I'm getting XTC readings of 15, both channels. I don't know if it's ORC, but I'm loving it. My FR is very close to optimal.

Give Santana "Caravanserai" a listen.

 

[Justdafactsmaam]

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Those are good, but I was looking for something that gets closer to 3 and 9 o'clock like I get from non-classical. Maybe it's just the miking.

unless you are the conductor you just don’t get 3:00-9:00 in real life.

 

[Sir Sanders Zingmore]

Does ORC impact the XTC? I thought it was “just” a form of frequency response correction separate from the XTC (I may well be wrong)

 

[Justdafactsmaam]

Does ORC impact the XTC? I thought it was “just” a form of frequency response correction separate from the XTC (I may well be wrong)

It’s supposed to improve it marginally

 

[jimbill]

Edgar also gave me some tips on using the microphones. I wasn't putting them in my ears deep enough. Now I kind of work them back and forth until they're level with my ear. Before, I wasn't blocking my ear canal. Then I make sure they are positioned as close to exact in both ears.

 

[Gwreck]

Does ORC impact the XTC? I thought it was “just” a form of frequency response correction separate from the XTC (I may well be wrong)

The biggest spatial thing I have noticed with ORC is on binaural recordings the spatial cues seem to be clearer. For instance usually there is a dead spot of the image should be behind my head where the image collapses and is front and center again. With ORC that image is behind my head.

 

[jimbill]

Are there good binaural recordings on Quobuz?

 

[mieswall]

Thomas Ades: Dante, LA phil directed by Dudamel at the Walt Disney of LA.. DG I think. Just amazing…each and every instrument perfectly delineated in its own space…. You are there…

Dahl - Martinu, works for clarinets & strings; sonolumina ensemble. Although a dsd that bacch processes only as regular pcm, the recording techniques are so remarkable, and bacch extract all the juice in it. I heard this in what’s one of the best systems I have ever encountered (Halcro monoblocks, ps audio mk 2 dsd, Genesis loudspeakers), and yet, with bacch/orc in my modest system (costing 1/20 of that) this sounds order of magnitudes better …. They are here…

 

[mieswall]

Awesome music to listen with Bacch: “Hounds of Love” by Kate Bush. One of my desert island records that i’ve listened perhaps a hundred times before. But B4M turned this into a whole new, hugely enhanced experience.
Hard to find a better one where the spatial clues unveiled by Bacch really show what a genius artist’ imagination is capable of.
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[mieswall]

It is common to aim for acoustical recordings (jazz, classical) to maximize the spatiality of the xtc filter. But with some electronic music could be as much or more so. Take for example Helene Vogelsinger 'Reminiscence'. For this spectacular recording BACCH is a must. It just gives a whole new meaning to this beautiful music. If in a hurry, try the last two tracks, "Ceremony" or "Reminiscence". Amazing.

 

[OG1950XXX]

It’s supposed to improve it marginally

May I suggest that there are simple , cheaper ways to obtain the same if not better performance , say Boom 3d since M2 chip has the potential to handle the processing, but unless your speakers themselves are capable of canceling SBIR or your room is treated , toeing will only allow so much to a particular seat in the room, whereas I and any Beolab 90 owners will tell you that it doesn't matter whether you sit or stand, move your body anywhere without losing 3 to 9 imaging. A friend has the $8.5K package BACCH4Mac and I have the less than $20 Boom. Both will bring spatial excitement to your AV library but beware of the side effects of poor room treatment as my friend tells me.

 

[Justdafactsmaam]

May I suggest that there are simple , cheaper ways to obtain the same if not better performance , say Boom 3d since M2 chip has the potential to handle the processing, but unless your speakers themselves are capable of canceling SBIR or your room is treated , toeing will only allow so much to a particular seat in the room, whereas I and any Beolab 90 owners will tell you that it doesn't matter whether you sit or stand, move your body anywhere without losing 3 to 9 imaging. A friend has the $8.5K package BACCH4Mac and I have the less than $20 Boom. Both will bring spatial excitement to your AV library but beware of the side effects of poor room treatment as my friend tells me.

What leads you to believe boom3D would do a better job of crosstalk cancellation and room correction than the BACCH? I didn’t see anything on the website that was in anyway encouraging. And it seems like it’s for headphones.

 

[OG1950XXX]

What leads you to believe boom3D would do a better job of crosstalk cancellation and room correction than the BACCH? I didn’t see anything on the website that was in anyway encouraging. And it seems like it’s for headphones.

I didn't intend to suggest that B3D did a better job than BACCH, B&O Core Managing B&O 90's sound as close to anything near OTEH in open space , giving you that same object sense of sound boundaries within its confined space, only that was already considered when it was optimized for Apple Music hence the reason I applied it for compatibility.

 

[OG1950XXX]

I didn't intend to suggest that B3D did a better job than BACCH, B&O Core Managing B&O 90's sound as close to anything near OTEH in open space , giving you that same object sense of sound boundaries within its confined space, only that was already considered when it was optimized for Apple Music hence the reason I applied it for compatibility.

Besides, wouldn't you want your Room to sound like your best headphones ?

 

[Justdafactsmaam]

Besides, wouldn't you want your Room to sound like your best headphones ?

No