No need to argue...just accept that there are other perspectives....Uh huh...
Hard to know how to argue with that kind of scientific rigor...
Do you think any of us here are not aware that there are people who don't understand how hearing works and have videos of themselves openly demonstrating their ignorance?No need to argue...just accept that there are other perspectives....
Do you think any of us here are not aware that there are people who don't understand how hearing works and have videos of themselves openly demonstrating their ignorance?
Did you think he had anything of particular value to offer, or just, 'Look! Someone hears a difference!'
Trying to figure out what you were looking for in terms of a response...other pointing out another joker/reviewer talking out of his ass.
Lots of them... Nothing new here...
agreed...the video I forwarded is not uncontrolled, is it?I'm not familiar with those movies, but I am familiar with the worth of listening tests with no controls. Subjective is fine- uncontrolled is not.
Isn't "our" purpose here to bleed less actually?I'd like to think this like the Avengers Civil War....I'd say the subjectivists on the Cap side and the objectivists on the Iron Man side. Each thinks that they are right except that they are looking from different perspectives. In the end we are all humans and that we bleed.
Of course there will be small imperfections. But do they matter? We have two methodologies. First, doing listening tests under controlled conditions. Second, measure and compare the results with scientifically established audibility thresholds.
I understand that the digital side of the DAC is just data and using expensive USB cables and the like isn't going to make any difference to the sound of the music, but what about the analogue side? Would it be possible to record a track and compare waveforms to see if there are actual any audible differences in DACs, ergo, their "signature", no matter how small?
Well doesn't it matter because some people say that they can hear a difference.
That's what the measurements you see in all those graphs show...
Are you thinking there's something being missed in the measurements? If the differences measured are below a certain level, they won't be distinguishable, let alone having distinct 'signatures.'
That's the point...that's meaningless without controls.
With controls, no difference.
People can claim whatever they'd like...maybe they could actually demonstrate it with levels matched and unsighted, then they might be taken seriously.
There are two crucial things:
listening should be under controlled conditions.
measured imperfections should be related to known audibility thresholds. Noise e.g. at -150 dB cannot be heard.