They even sound pretty good just through an iPhone video!! https://share.icloud.com/photos/09z1tq3SNXQvSqBHw1NX0xCdQ#North_Bondi
LolThey are ATC fans from Gearslutz
Maybe put a wrap on it like for cars?
Might be less value reducing than painting.
why would you opt out of the W371?neither, just 2x 8361
Not on the pair I haveNothing had been said about hissing....
Is there any, please ?
Wow greatThey even sound pretty good just through an iPhone video!! https://share.icloud.com/photos/09z1tq3SNXQvSqBHw1NX0xCdQ#North_Bondi
Those are not final stands.Nooooo!! The stands need to be white too sorry, I suffer from design OCD
Don't forget true deep bass and to those three you are about to receive add a couple of Gotham-V2...
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Famously, Carnegie Hall didn't even know that they had cement under the floor. It wasn't in the original design, but the construction firm put it in by mistake. Some 'golden ears' kept complaining, and Jim Polshek (architect) would show them the design. But then one day they took up a section of the stage floor and there it was.Are you certain? Can you name some of the halls you've attended?
Also, would you consider all of the shaping architectural techniques used in halls to redistribute sound to be that different from hidden mics and speakers?
Anyway, if there's any reference for music, I'd argue that it's not anchored to some particular event or experience.
I recently had the 8361's on a home demo.
Currently I'm using a pair of ATC SCM25a and, whilst the 8361s are clearly superior, there is something about their presentation that some may not find agreeable. As Amir mentioned the image created is limited in size (particularly compared to other (floorstanding) speakers) and, I felt, somehow feels fired at you through a narrow opening.
Don't get me wrong, I loved the 8361s (and I suspect I will be ordering some) but once my demo was over and I switched back to my ATCs, I was struck but the (comparatively) open soundstage. Given that the speakers are a similar size I was puzzled by this.
This got me wondering, what creates a sense of 'openness' in a speaker? Is it that many simply spray their sound all over the place?
Doug
I'd say the primary difference is the bass i.e. its deeper and better controlled than my ATCs.Other than the soundstage what were the other differences between them?
This is really interesting and matches my experience exactly.Jump in at 1 hour 4 mins if you want to hear what Sean Olive found on preference for wide dispersion…
It can go up to 10, just pretty close to impossible.
In the Olive’s patent document it shows the ~70 speakers and the measured vs actual scores, the max actual score was an ~8.2, which I assume is the Salon2.
I know Matthew Poes is working with a company for their own formula, but would be cool if ASR members could do their own as well. Matthew has told me though that he was (at the time) unsatisfied with the repeatability of testing the same person on different days as they scored speakers decently different on each occasions.
Thanks, on Gearslutz the SCM25 are probably the most praised monitors of them all so I was wondering about the differencesI'd say the primary difference is the bass i.e. its deeper and better controlled than my ATCs.
The dynamics of the Genelec are also truly impressive (startling even) and showed my speakers a clean pair of heels.
Imaging with the 8361s is also exceptionally good - much easier to hear the acoustic space of a recording and the placement of sounds within it.
As above, I did feel something was lost though, maybe it was hearing familiar music without a lot of additional reflected sound (that I've grown used to). It's hard to express but the 8361s are an intense listen. On reflection I suspect this is really more to do with me only having them for a short while and not just relaxing and enoying them but (over) analysing every aspect of their sound.
I bought my ATCs as I loved the sound of the mid-range dome. I know several here have questioned its accuracy, but I do find it very listenable. In contrast the 8361s mid just felt unremarkable somehow.
I realise my comments are all highly subjective and likely born of the unfamiliarity of the Genelecs. Suffice to say I am planning on buying them; as, on balance, they just do so much right.
Finally, I should add I did calibrate the 8361 with GLM and dialled-in a mild bass lift with Roon. I suspect given a little more time I might have tweaked this further and perhaps ironed out some of my perceived niggles.
That's a difficult question. I'd say both are pretty unforgiving at higher frequencies (as you would expect given their intended purpose) but I'm not sure the Genelecs were brighter.Thanks, on Gearslutz the SCM25 are probably the most praised monitors of them all so I was wondering about the differences
Did you feel the Genelecs were also brighter in comparison?
Well, the formula can go to a 10. What Sean is saying is to remap the scores, as right now the best sounding speaker used in the trials (Salon2?) didn’t even break 9.0. This is what he meant by saying people have a range & bias to scoring.Unfortunately it can’t go to 10; based on Sean Olive’s model…
Reference: Jump to 1 hour 6 mins and listen for about 3 mins
There’s hardly anything below 30Hz in recorded music.why would you opt out of the W371?
What about the controlled directivity from 20Hz to 20KHz?There’s hardly anything below 30Hz in recorded music.