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So we need no external devices if we had a Samsung S8+? How great...
So we need no external devices if we had a Samsung S8+? How great...
I manage a large team of engineers. I would cut or punt #2 without blinking an eye, target the 90% market and move on to higher priority features.
This is one area where I find ASR disconnected from reality. Sacrificing battery life or engineering cycles to satisfy a niche market in a $400 phone makes no sense. How many users do we expect to walk around with this phone and an HD650?
None that make rational decisions, a sound leaking, zero isolation headphone with lowish sensitivity that does not fold makes no sense. With IEMs it should go loud enough for most people.How many users do we expect to walk around with this phone and an HD650?
Asking for less output is like asking that your car have 1/3 the horsepower it has today because you fear fuel consumption. You don't have to use the max output if you don't want. But if you don't have it, you can't use it. In workplace you can leave your phone plugged in and use it as a streaming player independent of your work computer and its potential corporate restrictions.
As I showed, my Samsung phone outputs three times as much so it is not like there is no precedence.
I manage a large team of engineers. I would cut or punt #2 without blinking an eye, target the 90% market and move on to higher priority features.
This is one area where I find ASR disconnected from reality. Sacrificing battery life or engineering cycles to satisfy a niche market in a $400 phone makes no sense. How many users do we expect to walk around with this phone and an HD650?
Asking for less output is like asking that your car have 1/3 the horsepower it has today because you fear fuel consumption. You don't have to use the max output if you don't want. But if you don't have it, you can't use it. In workplace you can leave your phone plugged in and use it as a streaming player independent of your work computer and its potential corporate restrictions.
This is long overdue for a fix. They should make the range/resolution of the volume control a setting. It would be trivial to do so and is needed today with external bluetooth devices that get loud as well.The problem with having a very high level available by default is that your volume control would become very sensitive to changes even when you are not using headphones that require them. Users would have to worry about limiting their volume controls artificially between a small range on the lower side (affecting 90%+ usage) to accommodate the remaining use cases. This is not considered a good UX design.
Such things should be clearly stipulated so that there is awareness around it and better solutions come about. Parental controls could be used to address this for example.Yes @amirm but there are laws and the lawmaiker fear that childs use phones and headphones and they could hurt them self over time without knowing the danger. I dont like it, but somehow i understand.
In workplace you can leave your phone plugged in and use it as a streaming player independent of your work computer and its potential corporate restrictions
This is long overdue for a fix. They should make the range/resolution of the volume control a setting. It would be trivial to do so and is needed today with external bluetooth devices that get loud as well.
You mean stuff that the OS vendor gets paid to do?I don't disagree. But it may not be trivial as a OS settings UI change with an additional parameter into the core OS audio. They would also need to propagate this parameter via the platform API so that third party apps that use other audio setting modes can use it and/or be consistent with it and they need to make it backward compatible so that it doesn't break existing audio apps, etc. Someone who knows the exact implementation within Android platform would be in a better position to evaluate the cost of re-engineering
No because it is common for corporations to block access to Spotify or other music streamers, and prevent users from downloading unapproved software. My company blocked Spotify about a year ago, but so many people complained IT security begrudgingly made an exception.Isn't that a niche within a niche? People who really care about this will get a VPN and/or use an external amplifier.
Who pays Google for Android is, as they say, complicated.You mean stuff that the OS vendor gets paid to do?
IT policy at work disables non-admin accounts from installing software.Isn't that a niche within a niche? People who really care about this will get a VPN and/or use an external amplifier.
Really. We have you and your team to thank for WASAPI? That's pretty cool.You mean stuff that the OS vendor gets paid to do?
All it takes is a champion inside the company to push the changes through. I did that at Microsoft and overrode my teams objections that "it is not a mass market feature." My answer was: do it for me! And they did. As long as you are not doing this every day, the team will respond and get it done over time.
This is how the new audios stack/WASAPI came about in Windows. The one in Windows XP was so poor as far as fidelity so I asked them team to rewrite it and that is what they did. Things were very bad in Windows XP. The resampler was awful and even simple things like volume control were broken.
LG dropped the Headphone jack on the Wing. I hope its not a new trend for them. My G8 has a great headphone jack!In a world where every smartphone maker is gimping their headphone audio (either through elimination of the 3.5mm jack or weak output), let's hope LG continues to hold out and provide both a headphone jack and high output.