That uses a 3 contact (TRS) plug, not a two contact (standard mono) TS plug.Why do you say this, as miniDSP specifically documents the exact opposite?
A TS plug will short the cold output to ground and as a minumum over stress it.
That uses a 3 contact (TRS) plug, not a two contact (standard mono) TS plug.Why do you say this, as miniDSP specifically documents the exact opposite?
Gotcha!That uses a 3 contact (TRS) plug, not a two contact (standard mono) TS plug.
A TS plug will short the cold output to ground and as a minumum over stress it.
a two contact TS plug is basically a guitar cable?That uses a 3 contact (TRS) plug, not a two contact (standard mono) TS plug.
A TS plug will short the cold output to ground and as a minumum over stress it.
Yes.a two contact TS plug is basically a guitar cable?
To whom it may concern @mdsimon2 stayed true to his word and kindly performed a true multi-test regarding the performance of devices like this and the difference when loaded with EQ profiles,DSP filters,etc.
The results for Sharc DSP based devises like this one is similar with the ones I measured and observed (as a newbie) and it was a relief I did not mislead anyone about it (I always afraid of this when I post my newbie measurements).
Audibility issues are unlikely to be,it remains to be tested with more complex filters but it's good to know that there are measurable issues at lows and not small ones.
EDIT:The test link:
DSP Measurements and Rising Noise Floor
In several threads related to DSP platforms I've seen requests for measurements with filters engaged. I thought it unlikely that implementing filters in a DSP would have measurable effect on noise / distortion other than the obvious change in the fundamental, however @Sokel recently mentioned...www.audiosciencereview.com
Measurements aside the results are most likely to be inaudible in most cases in a digital system.Measurements without using DSP in the Flex are stellar, but turning on digital processing is not the same stuff.
So ... is better to have a fanless mini PC with CamillaDSP / Equalizer APO / Dirac Live and a multichannel DAC? (4 / 8 outputs)
The convenience in minidsp is hard to beat, but maybe the PC option is the best sound quality.
Now it's playing. In ifi ZEN STREAM/config/output devices had to be set to miniDSP Flex DL from SPDIF (which probably is the default) and restart the ZEN box. I have not changed that setting previously, I have used ZEN STREAM for quite some time connected usb to several other DACs/Roon.Anyone tried the following or similar setup?
ifi ZEN STREAM usb out => miniDSP Flex Digital usb in / miniDSP FLEX Digital TOSLINK out => Topping D70S DAC TOSLINK in / XLR out => power amp?
I have, does not work. Have I missed something here?
I cannot inspect how the Flex operates in the Device Console since the Flex usb is already occupied.
Topping DAC sync to 48kHz because I have the Flex DL version.
MacBook usb => Flex => Topping works fine.
Unless you already have a good understanding of what it is and how it works (including how to use REW), you'd be buying yourself a ton of headache for $300. Especially if you have a subwoofer.I have been offered a minidsp flex with a dirac license for a cheap price of 300 usd. I already have a denon x4700h, is the minidsp flex worth it, how can I best use the minidsp flex and take advantage of dirac license compared to audyssey? I'm a bit confused how it's used concretely
The MiniDSP is stereo only, so you can't use it for a 4.x.4 system. You can use it if you use it just for music using a stereo input to the AVR.The one thing I can see that would be useful for sure is that I plan to add bass shakers and for this I need to have different crossover for the bass shakers for movies (30 or 50hz) than the subwoofer (currently 120hz), it's why I looked at minidsp 2x4 hd and then saw that second hand option.
I did use REW to calibrate my subwoofer with she SVS app.
As someone who is new to such devices, but anticipates needing them soon, I'd be very interested in suggestions for fanless mini PCs and multichannel DACs that would serve well in such a chain.Measurements without using DSP in the Flex are stellar, but turning on digital processing is not the same stuff.
So ... is better to have a fanless mini PC with CamillaDSP / Equalizer APO / Dirac Live and a multichannel DAC? (4 / 8 outputs)
The convenience in minidsp is hard to beat, but maybe the PC option is the best sound quality.
I also do zen stream into flex digital. I find that the USB connection is more reliable than coax. With Spotify, I have to start streams twice with coax most of the time to get the flex to pick it up, less so with USB connection.Now it's playing. In ifi ZEN STREAM/config/output devices had to be set to miniDSP Flex DL from SPDIF (which probably is the default) and restart the ZEN box. I have not changed that setting previously, I have used ZEN STREAM for quite some time connected usb to several other DACs/Roon.
As someone who is new to such devices, but anticipates needing them soon, I'd be very interested in suggestions for fanless mini PCs and multichannel DACs that would serve well in such a chain.
That would be a good idea. but it doesn't seem that denon is able to easily switch from pure direct mode to non-direct mode for music and movie respectively easily.The MiniDSP is stereo only, so you can't use it for a 4.x.4 system. You can use it if you use it just for music using a stereo input to the AVR.
You'd need to (IMO) put the AVR into "pure direct" mode, not doing any DSP, leaving that for the MiniDSP. You'd need to be able to drive the sub separately from the MIniDSP, and the Denon.
Then use Audyssy for movies, and Dirac for music.
True, I was also looking at the DSP-LF Low Frequency DSP Controller from Dayton audio. Mostly because I want to be able to test different crossover level and compare.If all you care about is the xover and not sound quality (shakers are not about sound,are they?) you can get away with a dead cheap analog one for 50$ or less.
I don't know about the Denon, but my elderly Sony AVR retains the sound field setting separately for each input. So if I select my stereo source, it is automatically set to pure direct.That would be a good idea. but it doesn't seem that denon is able to easily switch from pure direct mode to non-direct mode for music and movie respectively easily.