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New Wondom ADAU1701 DSP Unit

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I added the PCM5102 boards to an ADAU1401 evaluation module, not the AA-AP23123. You'll lose some of the front panel controls on the AA-AP23123 if you add DACs, see post #30 above.

I think a better solution to get more voltage out of the AA-AP23123 is to increase the voltage to the SGMICRO SGM8904 line drivers and PT2259 volume controls.
If anyone has success in modifying the AA-AP23123 to facilitate increasing the supply voltage to the line drivers and PT2259 volume control, please post some detail.
 

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I did a little more digging around mine today. It looks like it can be fairly easily done.

There are 3 voltage regulators marked "S55ND" labeled U203, U205 and U206. There is an unpopulated pad for a fourth one labeled U204. With 5v in I measured 3.18v for U203, 2.82v for U205 and 2.72v for U206. The 3.18v appears to be the analog supply, the 2.82v the digital supply and the 2.72v supply is used for the GPIO controls, to keep them below the digital supply.

EDIT: I probed around some more including the ADAU1701, pins 36 and 48 (AVDD) are at 2.72v, pins 13 and 24 (DVDD) are at 1.75v and pin 18 (IOVDD) is at 2.72v.

It appears that you could cut the trace above the "4" in "ADSP-D2.4" (red line) and then run a jumper from D103/C221/C222 (I measured 5v there) to C313/C334 (pink line, probably want to route it better). The only issue I see is POT4, the volume control for the 12F1822 PIC, it uses the 3.18v supply, the other pots and the 2 toggle switches use the 2.73v supply.

EDIT: It seems possible you could bypass U203 and not have to cut anything. It begs the question why they went through so much trouble to regulate the voltage down in the first place? I'm getting 0.13v drop across each of the inductors, so you could get ~4.74v if you remove U203 and jumper across it. This way POT4 would also be at ~4.74v and you would get additional LC filtering that you don't get at the raw 5.0v at C221/C222. But no voltage regulation other than what your external supply offers.


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Also interesting is I'm measuring 2.0v at J106 pin 1 and J103 pin 2, both labeled +5V. Also measured 2.72v at J104 pin 20 labeled +3.3V. I did get 4.9v at J105 pin 5 labeled +5V.
 
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I just got my DSP, but noticed I failed to order progrmer. Do you think this one would work? https://store.sure-electronics.com/product/703 It claims to work with SigmaStudio™, but Our dsp isn'ton the list for support for the bluetooth app, and I'm hesitant to sideload n app directly from a Chineese company nyway. Though phone control would be wsome. Does anyone know if it is posible that the Dayton app would work since the Dayton dsp also uses the 1701? Now that mny here hve experiance with theis DSP, could someone recomend prormer? THe main issue I have with the WONDOM ones is that they are bare bords
I'm using the USBi programmer.

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I did a little more digging around mine today. It looks like it can be fairly easily done.

There are 3 voltage regulators marked "S55ND" labeled U203, U205 and U206. There is an unpopulated pad for a fourth one labeled U204. With 5v in I measured 3.18v for U203, 2.82v for U205 and 2.72v for U206. The 3.18v appears to be the analog supply, the 2.82v the digital supply and the 2.72v supply is used for the GPIO controls, to keep them below the digital supply.

EDIT: I probed around some more including the ADAU1701, pins 36 and 48 (AVDD) are at 2.72v, pins 13 and 24 (DVDD) are at 1.75v and pin 18 (IOVDD) is at 2.72v.

It appears that you could cut the trace above the "4" in "ADSP-D2.4" (red line) and then run a jumper from D103/C221/C222 (I measured 5v there) to C313/C334 (pink line, probably want to route it better). The only issue I see is POT4, the volume control for the 12F1822 PIC, it uses the 3.18v supply, the other pots and the 2 toggle switches use the 2.73v supply.

EDIT: It seems possible you could bypass U203 and not have to cut anything. It begs the question why they went through so much trouble to regulate the voltage down in the first place? I'm getting 0.13v drop across each of the inductors, so you could get ~4.74v if you remove U203 and jumper across it. This way POT4 would also be at ~4.74v and you would get additional LC filtering that you don't get at the raw 5.0v at C221/C222. But no voltage regulation other than what your external supply offers.


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Also interesting is I'm measuring 2.0v at J106 pin 1 and J103 pin 2, both labeled +5V. Also measured 2.72v at J104 pin 20 labeled +3.3V. I did get 4.9v at J105 pin 5 labeled +5V.
Bypassing the voltage regulator is by far the easiest route to take. A jumper across connecting the two inductors (after removal of U203) does supply 5V to the analog output stage. Clipping still occurs around the final output line drivers. Is it possible there are diodes connected across the audio output lines? Those 3 legged devices might be diodes, or are they transistors?? With the 5 v modification the audio output is much higher on the stage prior to the output liner driver. I may opt to rewire the RCA output jacks accordingly (possibly with a series capacitor to preclude DC on the jack).
 

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Has anyone determined what DSP output drives the 'Signal' LED on the front panel? Newer versions appear to label this LED 'Busy'.
Would be helpful to drive this LED with signal presence or other parameter of interest.
 

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Bypassing the voltage regulator is by far the easiest route to take. A jumper across connecting the two inductors (after removal of U203) does supply 5V to the analog output stage. Clipping still occurs around the final output line drivers. Is it possible there are diodes connected across the audio output lines? Those 3 legged devices might be diodes, or are they transistors?? With the 5 v modification the audio output is much higher on the stage prior to the output liner driver. I may opt to rewire the RCA output jacks accordingly (possibly with a series capacitor to preclude DC on the jack).
Did determine the 3 legged devices are 5V zeners with a common anode (or cathode). Don't appear to be hampering the output.. The output IC cannot drive low impedance loads (like headsets). Best performance if they see an impedance of 10k or up.
 
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Has anyone determined what DSP output drives the 'Signal' LED on the front panel? Newer versions appear to label this LED 'Busy'.
Would be helpful to drive this LED with signal presence or other parameter of interest.
The Signal LED is on GPIO 7, which is interesting as that pin is occupied by one of the front panel switches.
 

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Has anyone determined what DSP output drives the 'Signal' LED on the front panel? Newer versions appear to label this LED 'Busy'.
Would be helpful to drive this LED with signal presence or other parameter of interest.
I believe I traced the SIGNAL LED on mine back to one of the audio output pins on the ADAU1701. It only monitors one audio channel, OUTB R. I would have thought they would have used one of the ADAU’s GPIO pins, but there wasn’t anything in the SigmaStudio project Wondom posted.
 
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From my testing, either the switch or the LED can be used as GPIO 7. You can choose between them, depending upon the set pin mode. I can't imagine why they didn't simply route it to GPIO 10.
 

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The Signal LED is on GPIO 7, which is interesting as that pin is occupied by one of the front panel switches.
On my unit the front panel switches are labeled as GPIO 0 and GPOI 6. and the led's are labeled as "Power" and "Busy". What exactly is busy??A common problem with low cost Chinese imports is bizarre wording caused by the writer's poor English language skills.
 

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Did determine the 3 legged devices are 5V zeners with a common anode (or cathode). Don't appear to be hampering the output.. The output IC cannot drive low impedance loads (like headsets). Best performance if they see an impedance of 10k or up
 

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What type of IC is used for the output?
 

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I did a little more digging around mine today. It looks like it can be fairly easily done.

There are 3 voltage regulators marked "S55ND" labeled U203, U205 and U206. There is an unpopulated pad for a fourth one labeled U204. With 5v in I measured 3.18v for U203, 2.82v for U205 and 2.72v for U206. The 3.18v appears to be the analog supply, the 2.82v the digital supply and the 2.72v supply is used for the GPIO controls, to keep them below the digital supply.

EDIT: I probed around some more including the ADAU1701, pins 36 and 48 (AVDD) are at 2.72v, pins 13 and 24 (DVDD) are at 1.75v and pin 18 (IOVDD) is at 2.72v.

It appears that you could cut the trace above the "4" in "ADSP-D2.4" (red line) and then run a jumper from D103/C221/C222 (I measured 5v there) to C313/C334 (pink line, probably want to route it better). The only issue I see is POT4, the volume control for the 12F1822 PIC, it uses the 3.18v supply, the other pots and the 2 toggle switches use the 2.73v supply.

EDIT: It seems possible you could bypass U203 and not have to cut anything. It begs the question why they went through so much trouble to regulate the voltage down in the first place? I'm getting 0.13v drop across each of the inductors, so you could get ~4.74v if you remove U203 and jumper across it. This way POT4 would also be at ~4.74v and you would get additional LC filtering that you don't get at the raw 5.0v at C221/C222. But no voltage regulation other than what your external supply offers.


View attachment 335758

Also interesting is I'm measuring 2.0v at J106 pin 1 and J103 pin 2, both labeled +5V. Also measured 2.72v at J104 pin 20 labeled +3.3V. I did get 4.9v at J105 pin 5 labeled +5V.
Have you tried it yet? I tested voltages and found only 2v on both J106 in 1 and J103 pin 2, 4.6 0 on J105 5v pin and 2.76 on j104 pin 20. That is suposed to be 3.3.v, so the 3.3v is higher than 5 volt! I even ran audio through it to make sure it didn't have some sort of sleep mode. I need 5v for an aditional DAC . Any idea where I might get it?I dont want to go all the way across the board to J6, Also, I'm not the best solderer, and those pins are tight together.
 

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I did a little more digging around mine today. It looks like it can be fairly easily done.

There are 3 voltage regulators marked "S55ND" labeled U203, U205 and U206. There is an unpopulated pad for a fourth one labeled U204. With 5v in I measured 3.18v for U203, 2.82v for U205 and 2.72v for U206. The 3.18v appears to be the analog supply, the 2.82v the digital supply and the 2.72v supply is used for the GPIO controls, to keep them below the digital supply.

EDIT: I probed around some more including the ADAU1701, pins 36 and 48 (AVDD) are at 2.72v, pins 13 and 24 (DVDD) are at 1.75v and pin 18 (IOVDD) is at 2.72v.

It appears that you could cut the trace above the "4" in "ADSP-D2.4" (red line) and then run a jumper from D103/C221/C222 (I measured 5v there) to C313/C334 (pink line, probably want to route it better). The only issue I see is POT4, the volume control for the 12F1822 PIC, it uses the 3.18v supply, the other pots and the 2 toggle switches use the 2.73v supply.

EDIT: It seems possible you could bypass U203 and not have to cut anything. It begs the question why they went through so much trouble to regulate the voltage down in the first place? I'm getting 0.13v drop across each of the inductors, so you could get ~4.74v if you remove U203 and jumper across it. This way POT4 would also be at ~4.74v and you would get additional LC filtering that you don't get at the raw 5.0v at C221/C222. But no voltage regulation other than what your external supply offers.


View attachment 335758

Also interesting is I'm measuring 2.0v at J106 pin 1 and J103 pin 2, both labeled +5V. Also measured 2.72v at J104 pin 20 labeled +3.3V. I did get 4.9v at J105 pin 5 labeled +5V.
Have you checked voltage on the volune control chip? It requires a minimum of 4v. If that is also low it could contribute to the issue.
 

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I did a little more digging around mine today. It looks like it can be fairly easily done.

There are 3 voltage regulators marked "S55ND" labeled U203, U205 and U206. There is an unpopulated pad for a fourth one labeled U204. With 5v in I measured 3.18v for U203, 2.82v for U205 and 2.72v for U206. The 3.18v appears to be the analog supply, the 2.82v the digital supply and the 2.72v supply is used for the GPIO controls, to keep them below the digital supply.

EDIT: I probed around some more including the ADAU1701, pins 36 and 48 (AVDD) are at 2.72v, pins 13 and 24 (DVDD) are at 1.75v and pin 18 (IOVDD) is at 2.72v.

It appears that you could cut the trace above the "4" in "ADSP-D2.4" (red line) and then run a jumper from D103/C221/C222 (I measured 5v there) to C313/C334 (pink line, probably want to route it better). The only issue I see is POT4, the volume control for the 12F1822 PIC, it uses the 3.18v supply, the other pots and the 2 toggle switches use the 2.73v supply.

EDIT: It seems possible you could bypass U203 and not have to cut anything. It begs the question why they went through so much trouble to regulate the voltage down in the first place? I'm getting 0.13v drop across each of the inductors, so you could get ~4.74v if you remove U203 and jumper across it. This way POT4 would also be at ~4.74v and you would get additional LC filtering that you don't get at the raw 5.0v at C221/C222. But no voltage regulation other than what your external supply offers.


View attachment 335758

Also interesting is I'm measuring 2.0v at J106 pin 1 and J103 pin 2, both labeled +5V. Also measured 2.72v at J104 pin 20 labeled +3.3V. I did get 4.9v at J105 pin 5 labeled +5V.
Have you tried it yet? I also need 5v for an aditional DAC .
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I received my unit this morning and disassembled it to evaluate the board layout. In short, this is a very nicely designed unit for very little money.


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All audio IO is exposed via three headers with very clear labelling. Even the default I2S format is specified on the silkscreen.



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We even have onboard digital analog volume control in the form of a PT2259 for each output channel pair, with a PIC12 microcontroller to read the value of the volume potentiometer. This is unexpectedly sophisticated for a EUR 45 board and will serve to further reduce the ADAU1701 DACs' noise floor at normal listening levels.

I have not yet tested this unit but will be writing a Sigma Studio program for it momenHow is it that your's has the left switch marked as GPIO 7 while mine has it marked GPIO 0, yet they have the same version number on the board? Mine has the rear pot marked MP2 and ADC 1. That also differs on some units.
 
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