I would be interested in measurments of 80s "end-game" amps. I have a feeling we could find excpetional performance there. At least the data sheets suggest better performance than today. A lot of components were still discrete, and I think that could certinaly contribute to less cross-talk and good SNR.
Well, the RX A20xx/A30xx are considered the real high-end with both of those being quite similar, just the A30xx having a slightly beefier amp stage (10W extra output power 2ch driven, so no big difference), a slighly better DAC and 2 XLR Pre-Outs and 2 XLR inputs.
I have the A2070 myself as the A30xx just wasn't worth the extra cost to me.
But I think measuring the A1080 should give a good enough indication of how Yamaha's higher-end stuff performs.
Well, the RX A20xx/A30xx are considered the real high-end with both of those being quite similar, just the A30xx having a slightly beefier amp stage (10W extra output power 2ch driven, so no big difference), a slighly better DAC and 2 XLR Pre-Outs and 2 XLR inputs.
I have the A2070 myself as the A30xx just wasn't worth the extra cost to me.
But I think measuring the A1080 should give a good enough indication of how Yamaha's higher-end stuff performs.
The performance of these AVR's is scandalous imo.
It's like they have just been relying on the fact no one will look under the hood and examine the mess they've made and they are all in on it by the looks of things
This is the kind of thing that deserves to end up on Consumer Reports lolThat's up to you guys to spread the news. It has been a lot of work and expense and will continue through the rest of the reviews. We need to make sure it is not just heard in our corner of the Internet.
Ahhhh push it ..... Push it real goodThe performance of these AVR's is scandalous imo.
It's like they have just been relying on the fact no one will look under the hood and examine the mess they've made and they are all in on it by the looks of things .
That said there's a huge gap that maybe one of the excellent Chinese electronic manufacturers could fill , bringing great performance to this market sector.
I'm a fan of stereo integrated amplifiers in terms of value and versatility (and space saving). I love my Sony F470 integrated amp. I have my DX3 Pro connected to it as a digital receiver / DAC and pre amp, and I actually use the headphone out on the integrated amp to listen to my headphones.I don't have a room that is big enough to justify an AVR, but thanks for this! Are there 2-channel amps in the queue as well? Holding my breath for an affordable knock-out integrated amp.
Blind trust is a disaster my friend. This is especially the fault of the fault of fancy brochures and websites and bullshit audio shop salesmen.it's one of my biggest disappointment because I really had a blind trust with this brand...all this letting go in audio processing to make micro-savings leaves me perplexed...but why are they shooting themselves in the foot!!??
I’m glad I only pay $300 or so for slightly dated and highly discounted AVRs. If the companies are going to charge $1300 and play the minimally acceptable engineering game I’ll just buy in at the lower price range where perhaps I am getting what I am paying for, and just be glad I’m too technically oblivious to know the difference. It seems like charging that much for such mediocre performance under the hood borders on dishonesty. For that kind of money it should just clean knock it out of the park. IMHO, etc.
This review could not have come at a better time, thanks @amirm . I was just about to purchase an MRX1120 for my theater room, and I believe its built on the same design. No idea what a better option is for 11 channels?
It is a nice compact unit. Alas, like most products in this category, it has no useful specifications when I just looked it up. So until I test it, the answer is we don't know how good it is. Drop them a line and ask them to send one in for review .How about Outlaw Model 976 7.2 HDMI AV Surround Processor? Is it any good?
As I suspected, I had the wrong project file when running that test. Re-ran it and it is now fine at 4 ohm, producing nearly 2X more power this way. Review is corrected. Thanks for catching this.I think the peak power graphs are both labelled 8 ohm, the first should be labeled 4 ohm.