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Error in power formula, should be "Power = Volt * Current/impedance".
Making the unit of power ampere squared?
Error in power formula, should be "Power = Volt * Current/impedance".
Doubt that will happen anytime soon, A/V processors are far more complex and all the licensing you need is pretty insane.How many products is Topping going to come up with? Amazing.
Maybe they will make an A/V pre-pro! Wouldn't that be great?
I don't see why would a state-of-the-art performance device be “overpriced” at merely $699, many thousands of dollars of equipments were not as good as this.
It is totally overpriced. Who are they trying to kid? Maybe $299 is fair.
Spend just $200 more and get a 185wpc (tested at 4R) a tier one brand Yamaha amplifier with a heap of inputs, full remote, two pairs of speakers, headphone, a phono stage and including inbuilt USB Dac of good quality.
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I know which one I would buy if I was in the market...
Compared to other options at lower prices. Their own DX5 is $250 less and you drop some inputs, an output, and a trigger.I don't see why would a state-of-the-art performance device be “overpriced” at merely $699, many thousands of dollars of equipments were not as good as this.
I believe most of what you're paying for with this model Topping is R&D and engineering, not the physical parts. Parts are probably $100 tops.Which brings the question, how can Yamaha provide much more of a product at a comparable price despite all the corporate overhead. Economies of scale?
We are approaching a limit point beyond which it makes no sense to improve performance.
I believe most of what you're paying for with this model Topping is R&D and engineering, not the physical parts. Parts are probably $100 tops.
With the Yamaha, parts are probably 3x the cost of the Topping, but it's just an iteration of 30 years of HT receiver designs without nearly the same attention to detail.
RME does things that offer potential sonic improvements.why?
We are approaching a limit point beyond which it makes no sense to improve performance.
My words related to the DAC, you are writing about the amplifier. I agree with the amplifying part.No we aren’t, because when driving most actual headphones this one, like most of the category, will unfortunately perform quite poorly.
Desktop PCS still have a long way to go. I agree that performance of basically every CPU is good enough today for a person who does nothing but just browse the web. But there are many more things to accelerate if you actually do heavy work. In the case of DACs and Amps; we have reached the limit of where there is no need for more performance regardless of who you are. We can already Drive every single headphone to perfection and listen to every track made without real distortion.We are approaching a limit point beyond which it makes no sense to improve performance.
By analogy with processors on desktop PCs.
But this is just false in basically both ways. The DAC is perfect and the amp while not being the best amp ever is also more than good enough for basically anything you need to do. Sure you can buy a better amp on paper but I honestly doubt you'd be able to hear the difference unless you have the 1% of headphones that could need more than this provides.My words related to the DAC, you are writing about the amplifier. I agree with the amplifying part.
Where in God's green earth do you think that this will perform poorly driving headphones? You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about and can absolutely not back it up with science in any possible way. This will power 99% of headphones without a single hiccup to literally ear bleeding levels without any real distortion.RME does things that offer potential sonic improvements.
Wake me up when one the new darling pointless me too whatevers is distinguishable in controlled listening from a decent product from ten years ago, or earlier. Put another way, query what the latest-greatest darling pointless me too whatever offers that, e.g., a ca. 2005 Benchmark DAC/headphone amp does not? Jacks for all the newfangled “balanced” headphone connectors, 12V trigger, and a different look are all I can come up with.
No we aren’t, because when driving most actual headphones this one, like most of the category, will unfortunately perform quite poorly. I guess as a preamp it’s fine, because you can put the important stuff (bass management, equalization) downstream. But where it counts (sound at the ears) as an integrated headphone driving product it doesn’t have the capabilities required to maximize fidelity.
So it makes a lot of sense to keep improving performance. Or, to put a finer point on it, start improving performance.
For DC: Power = Voltage * Current"not chart topping"
Error in power formula, should be "Power = Volt * Current/impedance".
Where in God's green earth do you think that this will perform poorly driving headphones?
You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about and can absolutely not back it up with science in any possible way.
This will power 99% of headphones without a single hiccup to literally ear bleeding levels without any real distortion.