Yup. Agreed. OK, let's say the AT signature sound (certainly for this range) is all about the treble. Not a right lot going on below that. Not the case for their studio line (m50 etc) so they clearly do it intentionally here.Any company doing this would also have to release music engineered/produced just for these headphones then in order to get the proper sound, which is just preposterous.
I know that’s not what your saying, I'm just agreeing that "house sound" anywhere in the line other than directly from the artist themselves is a horrible idea. XD
That frequency response below 200 Hz makes me sad.
Why are so many Audio-Technica headphones so allergic to bass?
Well, I wonder how you feel about the much loved HD650 then https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/sennheiser-hd650-review-headphone.18774/
I would put this differently and ask: Why are so many dynamic driver open back headphones so allergic to bass? This allergy is by no means unique to AT.
Never said it was. Not sure why you assumed I thought that.
Then why bring up...never mind.I did not assume anything.
I would put this differently and ask: Why are so many dynamic driver open back headphones so allergic to bass? This allergy is by no means unique to AT.
I had a pair of those too. Primarily because I played a lot of CS, but I enjoyed them for music also. Classic.That actually looks a lot better than I thought! They were very comfortable too. About a decade ago, the AD700 was "discovered" by the e-sports/fps gaming community and a lot of people used them to gain an advantage in games like Counter Strike. They had excellent spatial qualities, especially when combined with virtual surround tech like CMSS 3D.
The non-studio headphones they make are so pretty. The wood-backed ones are dope.Ouch. $2000...
I used to own an ATH-AD700. It was funky as hell. It was excellent for pinpointing enemies in a 3d space in a video game, but not so great for music. I looked ridiculous wearing it, too. The reason I bring that one up is that the freq. response chart really looks like what I remember of the AD700. Maybe it's the "ATH house sound".
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The non-studio headphones they make are so pretty. The wood-backed ones are dope.
Crinacle says the ATH-R70x is good, but it looks so plain.
Even for 2k bucks, they still cant make an open back with decent bass response.
There's AKG K7XX which seems to buck the trend, not sure how they do it:Because physics. You can't have deep bass if you let all pressure leak out.
Even "open" planars don't get deep bass unless the seal they driver to ear "chamber" fairly well, but then the sound is usually less open as well so it's a trade-off.
There's AKG K7XX which seems to buck the trend, not sure how they do it:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/fa9gm1am98ndkqj/AKG K7XX.pdf?dl=0
https://drop.com/buy/akg-k7xx-massdrop-first-edition-headphones#overview
I couldn't really name any other open backs that can do this.
There's AKG K7XX which seems to buck the trend, not sure how they do it:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/fa9gm1am98ndkqj/AKG K7XX.pdf?dl=0
https://drop.com/buy/akg-k7xx-massdrop-first-edition-headphones#overview
I couldn't really name any other open backs that can do this.
I think the discussion was around open dynamics with decent bass. Open planars tend to do better in a lot of cases in that regard. Jealous of your HE6 though.Should hear a properly amped HE6SE and the bass that thing can pump out.
Personally I have both the ADX5000 and the Hifiman HE6SE, one measuring poorly the other measuring quite good. These days I listen to the ADX5000 75% of the time and the HE6SE the other 25% when I want that skull rattling bass. Take that as you will.
Yeah, HE6SE has that really flat extended bass all the way down to 20Hz (but a planar headphone like Jimbob said):Should hear a properly amped HE6SE and the bass that thing can pump out.
Personally I have both the ADX5000 and the Hifiman HE6SE, one measuring poorly the other measuring quite good. These days I listen to the ADX5000 75% of the time and the HE6SE the other 25% when I want that skull rattling bass. Take that as you will.