killdozzer
Major Contributor
This review made me register and I'm skipping formal introduction. I doubt anyone's interested, but if you are, I'll do it later.
I have a question which will ask of you to speculate, so if you have a wooden pencil lying around, please bite on it. ;-)
To ask this question I can't hold nothing back so I'll say I'm extremely satisfied with these speakers and most of these comments how it's just another unremarkable speaker don't bother me. I'm holding onto mine until death or lottery.
But what I really can't comprehend is this lack of bass you all talk about. (???????) When I was shopping for bookshelves no other had lows nowhere near what these spouted (Revel included, perhaps it was a poor set up in the shop). First of all these speakers venture into tactile bass. Me sitting 9 feet from them and vibrations enter through couch (then my ass, sorry to say) and shake my guts at 80dB measured.
All my guests drop their jaw when they hear the lows and most of them state it's too much and want them lowered. (No DSP, Pure Direct on an Yamaha ax-890 110Wpch into 8). I have them foot and a half from the back wall and 5 feet from side walls.
And now for the walls (as Oclee stated himself about the difference in US and EU houses and in room response). I have these speakers in a 22 square meter room (240 square feet) in front of a very hard, bare concrete wall. It is 5,5 meters long (16-17 feet). Simple formula speaks of a bump in 60Hz region.
But is this enough to explain so much bass? I'm sharing a (not so precise) spectrogram of these speakers playing a song that goes bellow 30Hz. You can see the activity in the lower region, but on the bottom half, take a look at four red stripes (upper left corner of the lower half of the image) extending well beyond 50Hz. That is the EDM heavy and low beat that is played in this song.
One thing that makes my visitors laugh is when I say I plan to get a sub.
Could you give your opinions and assumptions on this huge difference you see in these measurements and the output I'm getting at my place, please?
I have a question which will ask of you to speculate, so if you have a wooden pencil lying around, please bite on it. ;-)
To ask this question I can't hold nothing back so I'll say I'm extremely satisfied with these speakers and most of these comments how it's just another unremarkable speaker don't bother me. I'm holding onto mine until death or lottery.
But what I really can't comprehend is this lack of bass you all talk about. (???????) When I was shopping for bookshelves no other had lows nowhere near what these spouted (Revel included, perhaps it was a poor set up in the shop). First of all these speakers venture into tactile bass. Me sitting 9 feet from them and vibrations enter through couch (then my ass, sorry to say) and shake my guts at 80dB measured.
All my guests drop their jaw when they hear the lows and most of them state it's too much and want them lowered. (No DSP, Pure Direct on an Yamaha ax-890 110Wpch into 8). I have them foot and a half from the back wall and 5 feet from side walls.
And now for the walls (as Oclee stated himself about the difference in US and EU houses and in room response). I have these speakers in a 22 square meter room (240 square feet) in front of a very hard, bare concrete wall. It is 5,5 meters long (16-17 feet). Simple formula speaks of a bump in 60Hz region.
But is this enough to explain so much bass? I'm sharing a (not so precise) spectrogram of these speakers playing a song that goes bellow 30Hz. You can see the activity in the lower region, but on the bottom half, take a look at four red stripes (upper left corner of the lower half of the image) extending well beyond 50Hz. That is the EDM heavy and low beat that is played in this song.
One thing that makes my visitors laugh is when I say I plan to get a sub.
Could you give your opinions and assumptions on this huge difference you see in these measurements and the output I'm getting at my place, please?