Steve Dallas
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Neat. What caused you to abandon the MLAs you built?
Neat. What caused you to abandon the MLAs you built?
@ppataki that's a great project, speakers and room both looks so nice, I'm really impressed.
I can only imagine how great they sound as myself I'm a big lover of point source sound. I've had many full range speakers and been using them in open baffle systems. I absolutely know what you mean by 3d holographic sound.
Currently I have FANE Sovereign 12-250TC and they are excellent. Some are saying they are better than their bigger brother - 15-300TC and some are saying that the bigger brother is even better.
I would like to buy these 15-300TC but the problem is that there is no way to buy other than directly from Fane company but they are asking you to buy in bulk like 300 drivers. Otherwise no chance to buy.
Do any of you have any idea how to acquire them ? Or maybe we can find people's who would like to buy them and make a bulk purchase haha
These speakers are the only ones I would like to have and it seems impossible to make it happen.
How many people's would be interested in acquiring them ? Maybe we could get enough interested people's to organise something ?Thank you @Sieniek, appreciate it!
Unfortunately as you also rightly said you can no longer buy these drivers new - only in bulk (actually we have had an email conversation about that with Fane and they told us 100 drivers to start with......so no chance.....)
As far as I know, the only option to buy them is to keep searching on the used market - fingers crossed that you will find a pair for sale somewhere.
Hopefully Fane will change their minds about the production of these drivers but who knows....
Did you compared 15-300TC with 12-250TC or any other full range at all ?
The only problem with 12" Fane's I have is they cannot go lower than around 120-140hz even after calibration with DL. But I must admit that I'm using them in open baffle which obviously explain why they cannot play lower. It's a bit of a pain because I would like to use my subwoofers with them without a need to use additional woofers in open baffle below these Fane's drivers. But my subwoofers can play as high as 100hz maximum...
F15 and F18 are very similar drivers when it comes to FR and what is interesting is that in my experience these drivers aren't the best ones when it comes to applying dsp to fix that uneven response. I mean that they can be fixed but not as good as Fane's for example which means that in the end with Fane driver your FR will be much flatter in the end.You might be interested in this: https://www.audiosciencereview.com/...overeign-12-250tc-project-measurements.35301/
My friend has the 12-250TC in a sealed box that I designed - all the details are in the above thread
btw how did you find the Lii F15 and F18 - actually my friend is thinking about replacing his 12-250TC with the Lii F18
He is using DSP so uneven response, etc. is not a problem
If you put them in a sealed box and apply heavy DSP they easily go down to ~25Hz (of course it depends on your room and placement as well but check the above link)
Do your Fane 15-300TC play up to 18khz without any restrictions if you are seating in the sweet spot ?
After decades of experimenting with dozens of full range drivers, I was recently tempted by the F15 from Lii Audio. Because of their high efficiency they harmonize very well with DHT SET amps. I put them in a U-frame dipole open baffle cabinet and was really surprised how good they sound. As I know a lot of full range drivers I have a good impression of them. Never had such big ones before. Very good high frequency response and controlled bass. Lii-Audio advises against trying to linearize the frequency response with a correction network. I agree with this.Out of the box F15 ...
Any chance you can share your U frame dipole design with me?After decades of experimenting with dozens of full range drivers, I was recently tempted by the F15 from Lii Audio. Because of their high efficiency they harmonize very well with DHT SET amps. I put them in a U-frame dipole open baffle cabinet and was really surprised how good they sound. As I know a lot of full range drivers I have a good impression of them. Never had such big ones before. Very good high frequency response and controlled bass. Lii-Audio advises against trying to linearize the frequency response with a correction network. I agree with this.
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Any chance you can share your U frame dipole design with me?
sealed ? or vented pleaseI was happy with the Fane 250tc, using an old 10 band equalizer......
All I did was eq down that hump 1-3khz, boost the hf, then sit a bit off axis.
Easily covered a couch at 8' away.