Tekton M-Lore Speaker Review

[Timcognito]

Not really. Thought the other poster's comments were a little pandering and unnecessary.

Oh sorry, I wasn't telling you to "get out of Dodge". I was truly surprised at what I read in the array thread.

 

[Spidacat]

No not at all @Timcognito your comment was very helpful. I did think another poster's comment was sort of telling me to go away. Maybe I read too much into it, but it kind of came off that way to me.

 

[alexanderino]

No not at all @Timcognito your comment was very helpful. I did think another poster's comment was sort of telling me to go away. Maybe I read too much into it, but it kind of came off that way to me.

That's how online written communication has evolved. When the intent is unclear, I find it's prudent to give the benefit of the doubt. Emoticons and emojis help clarify the intent, so their use is well‐advised.

 

[Timcognito]

That's how online written communication has evolved. When the intent is unclear, I find it's prudent to give the benefit of the doubt. Emoticons and emojis help clarify the intent, so their use is well‐advised.

Yes having a thick skin helps too. Some people are inpatient, rude, want to impress, intolerant of different opinions, and some enjoy baiting others into arguments. ASR has a broad cross-section industry folk, EEs, hobbyists, enthusiasts, want-to-bes, and newbies and just as many personality traits. Have an open mind, admit when you could be wrong and you'll be fine.

 

[Dialectic]

I was trying to give the TLDR on the other thread, which I skimmed the other day. I have forgotten the technical specifics, but certain of our members figured out the problems with the tweeter arrays quickly. Thanks to @Timcognito for providing the link.

As to the new member, I just say, welcome aboard.

However, almost everyone here has heard enough about Tekton.

Of all the audio companies that manufacture questionably engineered products ranging between terrible and mediocre, Tekton is another one. It just happens to be run by a litigious and duplicitous maniac with whom no fully informed and rational person would ever do business.

 

[Danny23]

Has anyone else listened to the new Daily Hifi Podcast titled “AXPONA 2024 Recap Review?” In it Erin says the trip was relaxing because it was “right after I dropped my F-you Tekton video.” Haha!! I love it.

There’s a little more commentary in there about this subject, but probably not worth the full 1.5 hours of listening if you’re only interested about the Tekton snippets.

 

[Inertiaman]

Has anyone else listened to the new Daily Hifi Podcast titled “AXPONA 2024 Recap Review?” In it Erin says the trip was relaxing because it was “right after I dropped my F-you Tekton video.” Haha!! I love it.

There’s a little more commentary in there about this subject, but probably not worth the full 1.5 hours of listening if you’re only interested about the Tekton snippets.

Yep, dropping that video was no doubt a monkey off Erin's back, with all the relief that usually implies.

In Erin's own initial/quick AXPONA summary video he seemed like he was really enjoying himself. For me, even more upbeat than I've ever seen him in his standard review videos. My bet is that there were a LOT of 'atta boy" comments being thrown his way in the hallways and rooms.

 

[Danny23]

Yep, dropping that video was no doubt a monkey off Erin's back, with all the relief that usually implies.

In Erin's own initial/quick AXPONA summary video he seemed like he was really enjoying himself. For me, even more upbeat than I've ever seen him in his standard review videos. My bet is that there were a LOT of 'atta boy" comments being thrown his way in the hallways and rooms.

Yes sir. He mentioned a ton of support and fist bumps from strangers. He also mentioned his confidence in dropping the revised video due to the upswell of support from the audio community.

I also truly believe ASR getting him connected to an attorney helped relieve his stress, even though he didn’t mention it.

 

[Newman]

Some people are inpatient, rude, want to impress, intolerant of different opinions, and some enjoy baiting others into arguments.

A Freudian slip of the best kind!

My too-factual comments quite often attract people of the inpatient variety.

 

[Axo1989]

A Freudian slip of the best kind!

My too-factual comments quite often attract people of the inpatient variety.

Have an open mind, admit when you could be wrong and you'll be fine (as someone maybe said ... )

 

[Danny23]

More banned folks and more censorship from King Eric. I’m trying, until I get banned too…

 

[diddley]

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More banned folks and more censorship from King Eric. I’m trying, until I get banned too…

When he is censoring his own fanbase then the company wont last much longer, and rightfully so.
With that gimmikery speaker he builds.

 

[Newman]

As much as I think the comment above is far, far off the mark (as others have already commented), I do want to add one interesting piece of information I came across that was news to me and adds a wrinkle to Harman's listener response data. Someone had linked to this stunningly dense and beautiful page of teachings from the great Mr. Linkwitz himself and item "H" got my attention. Basically, he says that around 3 kHz there's a difference in the way we hear sound coming from directly in front of us in free space versus sound coming broadly from all around us. He cites classical recordings as an example where mic position passes this on to the recording and describes that he typically includes a 4 dB notch at 3 kHz in his crossovers, possibly with a switch to disable it for recordings that weren't mic'd this way (most everything else apparently). When I listened to the LS50 Meta it became apparent that it has a broad dip in the 1-3k range that nixed it for me, but that I now wonder if KEF put in there intentionally, and that I now want to look for it in other speakers as a "telltale" of the designer's thinking (having listened to the KEF and not liking the response with certain material).

Again, this page is awesome:

Electro-acoustic models

Acoustical and electrical models for the design of a dipole loudspeaker with numerical examples for the PHOENIX project.

www.linkwitzlab.com

Yes, you jogged my memory about having looked that that Linkwitz note many years ago, and not knowing what to make of it, ie whether to build it into my early-2000s EQ setups.

Interesting that Linkwitz uses a narrow -4 dB "notch" at 3 kHz, yet the Harwood/BBC reference he cites uses a wider, shallower -2 dB dip across 1 kHz to 3 kHz.

Also interesting that this is effectively an endorsement for the highly-debated Audyssey Midrange Compensation Dip. Perhaps Audyssey might actually have been onto something all along...

cheers

 

[Sal1950]

At this point the thing I find the saddest is what Erin says in the last few minutes of his latest video.
"IM DONE" and that he will never discuss Tekton or their products with anyone ever again.
So one of the bright lights of objective/subjective audio reviews has been silenced using threats of legal action,
which really boils down to what I see as financial extortion. A damn shame.

 

[Rick Sykora]

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More banned folks and more censorship from King Eric. I’m trying, until I get banned too…

The beatings shall continue until morale improves!

 

[Ninjastar]

Eric is basically calling Erin a snowflake ("unduly sensitive") with his most recent posts on the FB page. So I guess he's taking the apology back after watching Erin's second video?

Also this post by "Ed Young" to Eric:

....And please, post the data you claim to have to support your accusations that Erin’s measured data is wrong. I don’t think you have it. If so, why haven’t you posted the data? And why have you pull those speakers from your website?

Eric's response:

This is laughable! Eighteen 'product of the year awards' and you wonder if I have any measurements? Erin and Amir would have to work eight hours a day for 10 years to equal the loudspeaker measurements I've taken over my career. Furthermore, I have people that will support this. Also consider this... we have produced 1000's and 1000's of loudspeakers with every one carefully measured before they ship to clients. We have five Audiomatica electro-acoustical machines here; they're Italian, like my car.

 

[poxymoron]

Eric is basically calling Erin a snowflake ("unduly sensitive") with his most recent posts on the FB page. So I guess he's taking the apology back after watching Erin's second video?

Also this post by "Ed Young" to Eric:


Eric's response:

So, he drives a Fiat?

 

[caught gesture]

Eric is basically calling Erin a snowflake ("unduly sensitive") with his most recent posts on the FB page. So I guess he's taking the apology back after watching Erin's second video?

Also this post by "Ed Young" to Eric:


Eric's response:

What is it with overly-sensitive people being the ones who complain loudest about the sensitivity of others? Is it a mental illness? EA really comes across as someone who has not matured mentally. His responses are what I would expect from a petulant teenager.

 

[Tell]

At this point the thing I find the saddest is what Erin says in the last few minutes of his latest video.
"IM DONE" and that he will never discuss Tekton or their products with anyone ever again.
So one of the bright lights of objective/subjective audio reviews has been silenced using threats of legal action,
which really boils down to what I see as financial extortion. A damn shame.

I don't see it that way, I see it as Eric has silenced himself by getting less reviews of his products, while at the same time getting LOTS of negative feedback about him and his company. All this he rightfully deserves from his extremely bad and stupid behaviour.

 

[restorer-john]

So, he drives a Fiat?

Company car too!

Aww, there's already a Tektone company.

TekTone Nurse Call, Wireless Emergency Call & Apartment Entry Systems

TekTone manufactures nurse call, wireless emergency call, apartment entry, emergency call, area of refuge and area of rescue assistance systems.

www.tektone.com

And an Australian Tekton. LOL.

Tekton Expedition Vehicles | Australian Off-Road Caravans & Campers Manufacturer

TEKTON EXPEDITION VEHICLES - The Home Of Class Leading Design, Innovation & Manufacturing - Enabling Your Journey To Escape The Ordinary and Explore The Extraordinary... One Track At A Time.

www.tektonev.com.au

Looks pretty awesome, but does it compare to a ring of tweeters?