I am very interested on specifics between the somewhat backhanded compliment "definitely worth 50USD" and your liking the Moondrop better. There have been reviewers rather ho hum about the Zero.I have had these for a month now and they are definitely worth 50USD. I would also love to see a review on the Moondrop Variations and the ThieAudio Monarch Mk2. I have the Variations and I think they are the next step in tonality, however they cost much more than the Zero.
ROTFLMAOIn my case a thunder storm woke me up in the midnight, I went downstairs with urgency to check windows... then I checked ASR... and the rest is well known.
If you're interested in more of an objective ranking of headphones as they relate to Harman, I would suggest going here: https://github.com/jaakkopasanen/AutoEq/blob/master/results/RANKING.md (scroll half-way down to see the IEM-specific rankings). I think compliance score is a good metric, but it's also important to consider the overall FR in conjunction so you can see where the deviations, if any, are present. If one is going to EQ, there is lots of merit in picking a headphone with a lesser compliance score if other key hard-to-fix areas are highly compliant and the lesser compliant ones are easier to fix, have smoother response with less resonances, etc. Crinacle's own subjective neutral/preferences varies appreciably from Harman, and professional research has shown time and time again that price has virtually ZERO correlation with perceived sound quality and performance in headphones. Ironically, Crinacle confirms and proves this notion with his own $50 product here, while simultaneously implying the contrary with his own recommendations and suggestions for years now.Impressive. I'm tempted even though I don't really need them. Searching for this took me to this ranking list of many, many IEMs. I can't believe the price of some of them! <https://crinacle.com/rankings/iems/>
Here`s why sound engineering studies lasts 5 years to figure it out and to avoid common mistakes during recording process. Whole idea of recording natural instruments in natural environments (acoustics of recording hall for example) is wrapped around catching highest possible imitation of sound made by instrument in recording hall. Of course during mixing and mastering some changes will be done but whole art of recording starts at choosing proper mic for chosen instrument, proper placement. I`m talking about this Steinway Grand...or even being more precise, the pianist playing on Steinway Grand. That is why I feel safe by saying that V curve makes piano sound not like piano, cause I thrust that engineer choose to record Lang Lang on Steinway in Berlin Philharmonic is a master in his job, so postproduction interference would be minimal, if even necessary.If it was as simple as recording a piano with a microphone and pressing play, a lot of sound engineers would be out of a job right now. What microphones are recording said Steinway piano? How many mics and what are their responses, and how is the instrument or ensemble mic'd? What is the phase relationship of the mics? How is the signal processed after it's recorded and what if any magic are these engineers doing to bring it to life or add dimension to the composition? Would you be able to tell it's a Steinway if the entire passage was played pianississimo?
Here`s why sound engineering studies lasts 5 years to figure it out and to avoid common mistakes during recording process. Whole idea of recording natural instruments in natural environments (acoustics of recording hall for example) is wrapped around catching highest possible imitation of sound made by instrument in recording hall. Of course during mixing and mastering some changes will be done but whole art of recording starts at choosing proper mic for chosen instrument, proper placement. I`m talking about this Steinway Grand...or even being more precise, the pianist playing on Steinway Grand. That is why I feel safe by saying that V curve makes piano sound not like piano, cause I thrust that engineer choose to record Lang Lang on Steinway in Berlin Philharmonic is a master in his job, so postproduction interference would be minimal, if even necessary.
But your 100% right : if one does not prefer V curve tuning, one should look for different product
Hey mine too, Mine is on the 21st. Happy birthday fellow Virgo.I jumped on the instant order bandwagon too... but it is my birthday next week.
I am very interested on specifics between the somewhat backhanded compliment "definitely worth 50USD" and your liking the Moondrop better. There have been reviewers rather ho hum about the Zero.
Interestingly, shenzhenaudio sell a version with a cut out waifu named Virgo. Coincidence? I think not!Hey mine too, Mine is on the 21st. Happy birthday fellow Virgo.
@amirm The target listener curve between headphones and loudspeakers are different - how does one objectively equate the two in regards to tonality/correctness?You want this IEM so you know what correct tonality is, when you listen with other transducers such as headphones and speakers.
A rather simple question from a non-headphone guy like me,.. though I couldn't resist ordering these (maybe there will be more headphone listening now).
How has Amir measured FR on these?
I know, very basic question. But still I'm curious