I explained why - Denon and Marantz sold them for $1,000 not that long ago. I'm adding $500 for $125 in upgrades (the DACs and perhaps improved pre-outs) marked up by 4x to $500. A $1,500 AVP would cost $375 to manufacture.
The cost of the ES9026Pro (8 channel) for quantities over 100 is $24.84 and companies would get much better pricing than that. That would be insane for a $1,500 AVP - don't ask what DAC you normally get at that price range. Your $3 pencil is probably more expensive and the DAC is like the brain of the unit.
It's quite ironic that the 9038Pro for 8 channels costs $62. Does anyone know the price of an AVR that uses it, assuming one exists? I'm guessing Trinnov might.
Your assumptions and claims are so far removed from reality that I don't even know if it makes sense to point this out to you.
Therefore only a few points out of many:
1. Price increases
- In the last 3 years, the prices for electronic components have exploded, sometimes by 4-8 times the price. As an example, 3 years ago, a capacitor cost us 0.25 cents per piece when purchasing 100 pieces. Today more than 0.60 cents per piece for a purchase of 1000 pieces, the hundred price is induscutable.
- There are also delivery problems with many components, which means that production is delayed by months.
- For various reasons (including AKM), components are no longer available, or with delivery times of more than 2 years. The market was more affected by this in the last 3 years than in the 10 years before that combined.
These costs are of course added to the devices.
2. Manufacturers' revenues
May I ask what do you think manufacturers will get out of a $1500 sale?
3. Manufacturers' costs
Please make a list of the types of costs a manufacturer has, because these must be completely covered by sales. The components are just a small item.
With other manufacturers (SMSL, topping, etc.), here in the forum, the lack of support is criticized. But the high costs of service, support and parts inventory for AVR manufacturers are not taken into account.
4. Costs at AVPs
AVPs are and will remain a niche product.
The reason no manufacturer guts an AVR and sells it as an AVP is simple, the AVP would be significantly more expensive. The quantity would not be 10% of the AVR. Additional costs (own boxes, instructions, backing board, production, distribution, advertising, etc.) would have to be added to the small quantity.
5. DACs in AVR/AVP
There are good reasons to use individual 2-channel DAC chips in development. Have you checked how many outputs a DSP has in an AVR? How many inputs does an ES9038Pro have?
An ES9038Pro places much higher demands on its wiring and implementation. But if there is no (or hardly any) audible difference between an ES9010/18/38 and an ES9038Pro in "normal" DACs, what should the extra effort bring?