Of course distortion is too high but actually it is OK for an entry level AVR with 8k. Performance doesn't get much better when paying 2-3k usd anyway...
I see this a lot - why don't they use a 3-prong power connector?
Front Presence. It is part of a surround upmixing Yamaha created before Atmos existed. Compared to Front Height speakers, they go off to the side, so it’s likely Yamaha simply mixed the signal for the mains with a bit from the surrounds. For Atmos setups, they should be moved to be above the mains.Now, what does F.PRNS mean? I have been in home theater for as long as there has been home theater and I have never seen F.PRNS abbreviation. What is wrong with spelling these things out? There is plenty of room to the right.
Personally I never use the display of my AVR, always use the TV for setting up anyway.Costco is selling the exact same model rebarnded as TSR-700 for $200 less.
I dislike the tiny display with a passion. So much free real estate and it's used for a tiny display, one giant knob and one small.
I don't use it either, but I like looking across the room to see the audio format it's outputting. Even if it's just meant for close by setup it's way too small imo, especially considering no one has AVRs at eye level.Personally I never use the display of my AVR, always use the TV for setting up anyway.
According to the other thread this is one of the ones with the problem.Does it have that buggy hdmi 2.1 chip?
...reports in the current issue of c't 23/2020 , a suspected breakdown of the chip manufacturer Panasonic Solutions (meanwhile taken over by Nuvoton Technology) ensures that, according to the current state of knowledge, all HDMI 2.1-compatible receivers from Denon, Marantz and Yamaha are not able to transfer videos in these ultra-high resolutions to the TV without errors with certain players. The TV screen then remains black due to the HDMI 2.1 glitch .
source: https://www.heise.de/news/Bug-in-HD...nsole-und-Grafikkarten-betroffen-4935888.html
well, 8 channels of acceptable dacs, the question is how little... To be honest, 7 good performing 120W-8R for 600$ is crazy cheap already, they could get rid of all the receiver options and the price would still be decent. Of course there are compromise, we are talking basic home theater functionality, to target people that don't like to spend money (that's a lot of people ain't it?) If it was gonna perform like their flagship lines, some people responsible in pricing and market positioning would have not done their job...It would have cost them so little to put an acceptable DAC in there. Especially disappointing given the amp side performs very well.
Does it have that buggy hdmi 2.1 chip?
...reports in the current issue of c't 23/2020 , a suspected breakdown of the chip manufacturer Panasonic Solutions (meanwhile taken over by Nuvoton Technology) ensures that, according to the current state of knowledge, all HDMI 2.1-compatible receivers from Denon, Marantz and Yamaha are not able to transfer videos in these ultra-high resolutions to the TV without errors with certain players. The TV screen then remains black due to the HDMI 2.1 glitch .
source: https://www.heise.de/news/Bug-in-HD...nsole-und-Grafikkarten-betroffen-4935888.html
Let's see how a $600 MSRP Denon compares before calling it not Denon-tier.For 600$ this seems like all most people could ever want in an AVR. True, it's not Denon-tier performance, but they usually cost double the price of this. Depending on if you need room correction or if you're annoyed with bad menus, this could really be a great entry into home-theatre for many people.
By measurement? possibly. Audibly in common use? Doubtful.The real question I have is if there are options in this price range that perform any better?
Let's see how a $600 MSRP Denon compares before calling it not Denon-tier.
Random anecdote: I actually used to own a 2016 $600 MSRP Denon, and it subjectively sounded very poor. Either it was defective or they save the better amps for the X-line because my X4700 sounds much, much better now. I suspect Denon's S-line of receivers use much lower quality components.
It seems like mid-range DAC chips from 15-20 years ago would have had better theoretical performance than this. Are DAC sections in AVRs that much harder to implement, do manufacturers no longer have the IP to produce good results on the budget end, or are manufacturers simply restricting the performance of lower-tier models in order to justify the R&D for the $4K boxes that make up the top tier of the AVR SINAD list?It would have cost them so little to put an acceptable DAC in there. Especially disappointing given the amp side performs very well.
The Denon AVR-X3600H is currently going for $800:For 600$ this seems like all most people could ever want in an AVR. True, it's not Denon-tier performance, but they usually cost double the price of this. Depending on if you need room correction or if you're annoyed with bad menus, this could really be a great entry into home-theatre for many people.